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To: bentway who wrote (5269)	1/8/2017 4:41:48 PM
From: Lane3	1 Recommendation Recommended By TimF Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 367682

One of the problems in evaluating ObamaCare is that from the very beginning they have been using being "insured" as a proxy for access to healthcare. The objective was to get everyone insured. If you have a policy, though, that has a huge deductible or one with a narrow network, depending on the kind of health issues you have, you might not have any better access than if you had no coverage, nor are you necessarily better off financially having paid the premium but not getting to use the coverage. A poor proxy isn't reliable for measurement of the program. People who had no coverage but who are now fully subsidized under ObamaCare are no worse off. The others, not necessarily.

To: bentway who wrote (5269)	1/8/2017 5:05:18 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 367682

>> Yes, since it's no illusion. It's your partisan delusion. First, you have to recognize that "insured" is a misnomer, since almost the entire gain in "insured" persons is not "insured" at all, but welfare recipients. It is a totally different thing. Secondly, "insurance" != "health care", although your post would lead one to assume there is no difference. In particular, Medicaids continue to have problems finding accessible providers -- a problem which is far worse than before. Then, you might question why CDC would publish something like that. It seems remarkably like propaganda to me.