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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (46490)	11/26/2017 11:34:25 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356215

The deep state is all about shallow minds...

To: epicure who wrote (46490)	11/26/2017 1:04:20 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356215

The thing is, the deep state does exist is some countries. Turkey is the classical example. Authoritarian governments often breed them. As to bureaucracies, they kept the Roman Empire functioning during the good emperors and the bad ones. They are a good thing because of this. While they can be annoying, they contribute to stability. I never understood why conservatives, in particular, hate them.

To: epicure who wrote (46490)	11/26/2017 6:11:47 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 356215

Oh yes there is. How do you explain the widespread traitorous activity of Obama plants within the administration. There were so many leaks when Trump took over that he couldn't have a private conversation without it showing up on CNN the next day. Then on top of that two former FBI Directors are trying to take down the elected President from Day 1. This is not the way a functioning Democracy is supposed to work. When the people elect someone, the members of the bureaucracy are supposed to "serve at the pleasure of the President" not subvert him at every turn. If that isn't traitorous deep state, then at the least it is active subversion.