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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (56377)	2/15/2018 2:49:32 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 357846

I don't think we will do anything intelligent. We are one stupid ass nation with the oligarchs and NRA in control. The comments were rhetorical. I was stating what I think we should do, but I don't expect any solutions. Answer me one thing: Why are we the only nation on earth to have this problem?

To: Lane3 who wrote (56377)	2/15/2018 3:09:45 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357846

PS, if you think those things are so impractical how do you think other nations do it? I am old and have 100% health insurance forever. I cannot imagine being old without it. Other nations protect their people, like Canada. W wasted many trillions of dollars on two stupid wars we are still fighting and he and trump cut taxes by trillions on the rich. How much education and health insurance do you think we could have gotten with that money? << I realize as I am writing this that I'm talking to someone who thinks that free college and single-payer are actually practicable so I have no expectation of making a dent in your POV, nonetheless I point out that there ain't much prospect of more than a tad of mitigation on the gun front, either.

To: Lane3 who wrote (56377)	2/16/2018 10:34:02 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 357846

>> We no longer have the option of addressing the problem as a country with no guns in circulation and no history of gun use. Sounds like you believe the guns are the core problem. That if only you could somehow take them back that would end the problem. Yet, societies killed each other long before there were guns. There were wars, there were tribal squabbles, and innocents killed -- throughout history. There have probably been more people killed with clubs and other archaic weapons than with guns. So, from where comes the belief that removal of guns stops this problem of a society in random killing is seen as acceptable by an apparently growing number?