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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (140275)3/27/2018 2:46:42 PM
From: Elroy Jetson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217944
 
Why are conservatives so obsessed with Vladimir Putin? — People have lost their minds over Putin, but it's not in the US.

Is Putin truly that popular down in New Zealand? It totally mystifies me. — Vlad won't even be able to run for office again unless he drafts a new Russian Constitution.

Even dvdw© made the first post this morning exalting the wondrous 'integrity' of this gangster boss. It's freakish. The entire Russian economy is smaller than California or New York.




To: Maurice Winn who wrote (140275)3/27/2018 2:55:21 PM
From: stsimon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217944
 
"The world's population could get down to a few hundred million."

That's not a bad outcome at the macro level. Bummer for the folks that don't make it.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (140275)3/27/2018 8:27:12 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 217944
 
Understood....in every respect.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (140275)4/3/2018 8:01:23 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217944
 
am not paying much attention on the usa / russia front

believe drama in the korea theatre would also trend to nothing

am also rapidly losing interest w/r to the trade war drama, as the sides are pussy-footing around and not offering up serious slams and material dunks

the usually sensational cnn cannot even make hay with the slim offerings tee-ed up

am considering napping until ge, gm, apple, boeing and qualcomm are offered up to the son of heaven to make examples of

money.cnn.com

US proposes tariffs on 1,300 Chinese goodsFears of a trade war between the United States and China just escalated again.The Trump administration on Tuesday published a list of about 1,300 Chinese exports that could be targeted for tariffs.

The United States plans to apply the tariffs to about $50 billion worth of goods to punish China for its theft of trade secrets, including software, patents and other technology. A 25% tariff would be applied to all the products, according to the US Trade Representative, a wing of the White House.

Many of the tariffs would target the Chinese aerospace, tech and machinery industries. Others would target medical equipment, medicine and educational material, such as bookbinding equipment.

In a statement, the Chinese embassy in the United States said that China "strongly condemns and firmly opposes" the proposed list.

"As the Chinese saying goes, it is only polite to reciprocate," the embassy said, adding that China intends to pursue the matter with the World Trade Organization and enact "corresponding measures of equal scale and strength against U.S. products."

The tariffs won't go into effect immediately. The administration will hold a public hearing for US businesses on May 15. Even after that, it's not clear when the tariffs would be applied.

China tariffs: Artificial teeth, flamethrowers and other things on the list

US business advocates said the administration diagnosed the problem with China correctly, but had the wrong remedy.

"The administration is rightly focused on restoring equity and fairness in our trade relationship with China. However, imposing taxes on products used daily by American consumers and job creators is not the way to achieve those ends," said Myron Brilliant, executive vice president of the US Chamber of Commerce, an advocacy group that has long been opposed to Trump's trade policy.

Read the full list of proposed tariffs

A lobbying group for US farmers pleaded with the administration not to go forward with the tariffs, fearing retaliation by China, one of the largest buyers of US crops.

"We continue to urge the administration to listen to farmers across rural America who can't afford new taxes on their exports," Max Baucus, a former Democratic senator from Montana and co-chairman of Farmers for Free Trade, said in a statement.

Related: China to US: We'll match your tariffs in 'scale' and 'intensity'

The list came hours after China's Foreign Ministry insisted it would respond with equal measure to any US tariffs. China said it has its own list of American exports that it will target if the United States goes through with its plan.

"We have been saying that China wouldn't start a trade war," a Foreign Ministry spokesperson said in Beijing. "But we are not afraid of it, and we will resolutely fight to the end if someone insists on a war."

Leaders from both countries have been in talks for more than a week to try to make compromises and provide US companies more rights in China.

After a months-long investigation, the USTR concluded that China forces US tech companies that want to operate there to enter joint ventures with Chinese businesses and share their technology. Chinese firms often steal patents and software from the American firms, the investigation found.

Related: How much has the US lost from China's IP theft?

There is little dispute in the United States that China does not play by the rules when it comes to tech trade. The debate in Washington is about the best way to punish China without hurting American consumers.

The United States had promised that the proposed tariffs would hit Chinese tech, aerospace, communications and machinery. But the list released Tuesday includes some unexpected items, such as malaria test kits, hearing aids, defibrillators, flame throwers, syringes, artificial teeth and X-ray machine equipment.

The USTR also proposed tariffs on Chinese-made military rifles, shotguns and grenade launchers. Turbo jet engines and certain helicopters are among those slated in Chinese aerospace to be hit with a duty. Several drilling machines are on the list as well.

The Trump administration has already imposed a 25% tariff on imported steel and a 10% tariff on imported aluminum. Those tariffs apply to most countries, including China, though some have been exempted.

China responded to the metal tariffs with its own tariffs on $3 billion of US exports to China, including fruits, wine, nuts and pork.

CNNMoney (New York) First published April 3, 2018: 5:28 PM ET




To: Maurice Winn who wrote (140275)4/4/2018 4:37:41 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217944
 
it appears that china's idea of equivalency sets soya and jets against 1,300 little items

events going nuclear quite fast

bloomberg.com

China Hits Soybeans, Aircraft in Counter-Punch to Trump Tariffs
April 4, 2018, 4:04 PM GMT+8
China said it would levy 25 percent tariffs on imports of 106 U.S. products including soybeans, automobiles, chemicals and aircraft, in response to proposed American duties on its high-tech goods.

Matching the scale of proposed U.S. tariffs announced Tuesday, the Ministry of Commerce in Beijing said the charges will apply to around $50 billion of U.S. imports. The step ratchets up tension in a brewing trade war between the world’s two largest trading nations, with the Trump administration’s latest offensive based on alleged infringements of intellectual property in China.

China to Levy $50 Billion of Reciprocal Tariffs on 106 U.S. Products

Bloomberg’s Emma O’Brien reports from Beijing on China’s response to U.S. tariffs.

(Source: Bloomberg)
In a statement released Wednesday, China’s envoy to the WTO, Zhang Xiangchen, said that a list of planned charges on more than 1,300 product categories focused on its industrial machinery and technology exports was "an intentional and gross violation of the WTO’s fundamental principles of non-discrimination and bound tariffs."

In deciding which products to hit, U.S. officials on Tuesday identified product lines that the U.S. Trade Representative’s office says benefit unfairly from government industrial policies, including Beijing’s Made in China 2025 plan to to dominate key strategic technologies.

In targeting sectors that Beijing is openly trying to promote, the U.S. is signaling that its strategic aim in the current conflict is preventing China from gaining the global technological leadership that it wants. That has provoked anger in China, while analysts voiced doubt that the tariffs will succeed in changing Beijing’s behavior.

The tariffs may have only a minor economic impact, increasing levies by $12.5 billion on Chinese shipments to the U.S. that reached $506 billion last year, said Shane Oliver, the head of investment strategy at AMP Capital Investors Ltd. in Sydney. That’s an average tariff increase on overall imports from China of just 2.5 percent, he said.

"The main risk is that China’s response leads to a counter retaliation by the U.S. and a process of escalating tariffs that leads to a sharp slowing in trade between the two countries," said Oliver.

For more on the U.S.-China tariffs disputeRead about what’s spared and what’s hit
See what Bloomberg economists say about the impact
Which stocks to watch
More detail on China’s response
Click here to learn about some of the unusual items included
Link to the full list from the USTR


Asian stocks were mixed as traders awaited a more detailed response from China to the latest escalation of trade tensions between the world’s two largest trading nations. The Shanghai Composite Index rose.

Stocks to Watch After Trump Announces Proposed China Tariffs

Industries including aerospace, information and communications technology, robotics and machinery are among those targeted by the USTR on Tuesday, which said it also chose products to minimize the impact on the U.S. economy and consumers.

In addition to advanced technologies such as communication satellites, the list includes things ranging from various types of steel to television components, medical devices, dishwashers, snow blowers and even flame throwers.

"The U.S. has this vicious intention to strangle China’s high-tech innovation," said Wei Jianguo, former vice commerce minister and now an executive deputy director of the China Center for International Economic Exchanges, a government-linked think tank. "China won’t submit to the U.S. bully. Our countermeasures will hit their soft spots."

The U.S. duties will likely provoke a strong response from China, said Carlos Gutierrez, U.S. commerce secretary under former President George W. Bush.

“Wars start with battles, and the battles have started,” Gutierrez, co-chair of the consulting firm Albright Stonebridge Group, said in an interview in Mexico City. Chinese President Xi Jinping “can’t afford to look like he’s getting pushed around.”

What our economists say ..."The U.S. proposal on tariffs aims to hit China’s industrial ambitions without hurting U.S. consumers," said Tom Orlik, chief Asia economist at Bloomberg Economics in Beijing. "On both objectives, it will likely fall short. In sum – we think the macro impact will be limited and the strategic objectives difficult to achieve."

The release of the list by U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer leads into a roughly 60-day period when the public can provide feedback and the government holds hearings on the tariffs. The 25 percent tariffs come on top of any existing levies.

China’s Made in China 2025 plan was announced in 2015, and highlighted 10 sectors for support on the way to China becoming an advanced manufacturing power, from information technology, to robotics and aerospace. In addition, China has a separate development strategy for artificial intelligence, published in 2017.

USTR said the public can submit written comments on the tariffs until May 11, and it will hold a public hearing on them on May 15 in Washington.

— With assistance by Andrew Mayeda, Miao Han, Kevin Hamlin, Bryce Baschuk, Eric Martin, Katia Dmitrieva, and Henry Hoenig