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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (376833)7/13/2018 11:14:30 AM
From: koan  Respond to of 542214
 
Exactly.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (376833)7/13/2018 11:41:46 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542214
 
It's a lot easier and more credible to blame the defeat on Comey for talking and Strzok for not talking than it is to blame the DNC.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (376833)7/13/2018 11:49:42 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542214
 
Biden was more electable. Sanders would have been toast once the media guns had turned on him. He got a free ride, for the most part- the feckless dick. He was a nothing, had done almost nothing, and Russia hadn't turned it's eyeballs on him- if they had, he would have gone down faster than a lead balloon. Biden, on the other hand, with a penis and the dead son charm AND the fact that he'd actually done stuff, and was a dem AND people liked him- would have won.

Hillary would have won if fucking Comey hadn't blown the election. You always forget to mention that.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (376833)7/13/2018 11:54:46 AM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 542214
 
Your conclusion here, that Sanders was more electable in the general, than Clinton, is extremely unlikely. The only element of truth there is that Sanders, best we can tell, had more passionate voters, but definitely not more voters.

Two rather obvious reasons. The first is that the socialist/communist tag would, unfortunately, have been played to a faretheewell. The second is that Bernie had much less support among African American women than Clinton. More than enough to make a large difference.

For what it's worth, the last candidate who could bridge the great divide between the white working class and minority communities in the US was Bobby Kennedy. With his death, the rhetorical gap has grown increasingly larger and more unbridgeable.

There is much to criticize about Clinton's campaign. But it's important to remember that she won the popular vote by a rather large margin. And, had the FBI kept faith with its proper protocol of not talking about investigations, would likely be president.