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To: koan who wrote (320035)	10/28/2019 12:20:28 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist	2 Recommendations Recommended By Cogito Ergo Sum pocotrader Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361715

I feel it's better to listen and find the core of another person's thoughts rather than be defensive. That goes for me too. And humor always helps. In many cases you are very deep and wise, Koan. So is everyone here. However, when you say, for example, Republicans/conservatives are always bad and Democrats/liberals are always good, it is like christofascism -- there is no room for listening or discussing with any space for growth or self-examination of assumptions. Democrats and Republicans, like families and personal life experiences, have gone through many cycles over decades. I do not subscribe to us/them thinking. Or me right/you wrong. Man/woman. Republican/Democrat. Left/Right. IMHO, binary thinking is obsolete in a "quantum" mindful reality. (And later, probably beyond quantum and incomprehensible currently.) So I am sort of binary about binary thinking; that's a bug not a feature. I'm a little embarrassed. The reason RW Republicans are not in Sioux Nation has to do with the common incivility and trolling that poison discussion, tolerance and fun. That's a feature here, not a bug. Trump's behavior is inside all humans. Even the late great Martin Luther King and JFK had a dick-side. And great women are capable of beautiful and shitty too. Just sayin'. We must illuminate everyone, every human, by a broader multi-dimensional light. OK, maybe not McConnell, Giuliani or Cheney. I have to think about that. ;-) psychologytoday.com weforum.org

To: koan who wrote (320035)	10/28/2019 3:10:10 PM
From: elpolvo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361715

koan- You think it is a moot point to explain why one believes what they do? in most cases i would answer NO... but when it's obvious, overstated, redundant and re-explained to those who are already aware of your motives for your beliefs (as in THIS case)... my answer is YES. especially when they hold the SAME beliefs you do. that actually shows signs of forgetfulness or inattention to whom you're talking rather than thoroughness, or helpfulness towards another's clear understanding. i'm not disrespecting age related mental decline. i'll be one of the first to raise my hand when asked if my mind and my memory is less sharp than it was ten years ago or even one year ago. if you see signs of this in my posts, please ask for clarification - we're all aging here - perfect communication is more difficult as we age and i'm always happy to try to improve mine. i'm not lecturing you on what to post... nor am i debating you on what you believe. i'm merely asking for clarification in order to understand you better. from my honest perspective, i'm looking for ways that you and i can work together toward our common goals. we have many. from most of your replies to me it seems you see me as an enemy with a hidden agenda when i question you. i almost always feel you are seeking an apology from me for questioning you. am i wrong about that feeling? i sincerely hope so. i apologize... again... but i'll always have questions. here's a simple one that most concerns me NOW... do you forgive me? -elpolvo