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To: koan who wrote (432162)	3/6/2020 11:28:12 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540785

"In the end the progressive will win the day" That end is at least 4 years away. Warren didn't endorse Sanders in '16. Why would she do it now? "And where did Biden win? He won the low information areas of the country i.e. the South and rural areas" Are you calling Black Dems low info? Are you calling Ma. and Me voters low info?

To: koan who wrote (432162)	3/6/2020 12:19:13 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 540785

>...The progressives are still upset that Warren did not endorse Bernie in 2016 well bless their little hearts.... and fuck them :^) it's weird that you seem to speak for all progressives, it's like a person can't be a progressive unless they pledge allegiance to Bernie as I said, I would have preferred Warren over either bernie or biden I think she's smarter than both of them put together "Then there's the third problem: an incompetent administration. An incompetent administration is like its own natural disaster." -Elizabeth Warren outlining the factors involved in the coronavirus damaging the economy pic.twitter.com/MNp2xzWW3G — Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) March 6, 2020

To: koan who wrote (432162)	3/6/2020 2:09:55 PM
From: JohnM	3 Recommendations Recommended By abuelita cosmicforce Wharf Rat Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540785

Just a quick reply to this longish statement, koan. As I read the returns from last Tuesday and the slim polling we are getting ahead of next week's votes, the major thing happening is a very, very large shift toward the argument that the Dems just have to beat Trump. Whichever is most likely. And large, large swaths of voters have concluded Biden is most likely to do that. Very different from ideological splits. Which, to the degree they remain, will hand the presidency back to Trump. As for calling black voters in the south, low information voters, I would scold you if that would help. On the basis of everything I've read/heard/seen those black voters are very high information (many waited until the South Carolina results were in before deciding how to vote, very pragmatic (just beat Trump), and so on). It's definitely not low information; just different bets on the future. Beating Trump and gaining control of Congress is the first and second and third order of business.