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To: Kirk © who wrote (8529)	3/21/2020 2:46:54 AM
From: Winfastorlose	1 Recommendation Recommended By rdkflorida2 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26631

Don't be so sure that profiteering will not be a part of any response to this situation. My own personal belief is that it is naive to rule out conspiracies. I have witnessed far too many "conspiracies" in my lifetime and am well aware of history. After all the definition pf conspiracy is merely An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal or immoral action.

To: Kirk © who wrote (8529)	3/21/2020 3:57:00 AM
From: Winfastorlose	Respond to of 26631

Newsome declared a statewide lockdown due to Covid19, which has been in the state for approximately 60 days now and has produced 24 deaths. . In only the first two weeks of 2020, the winter flu killed 149 Californians. sacbee.com Trump is being urged to declare a nationwide lockdown due to Covid19 which has killed a couple of hundred Americans this year (mostly in Washington State and New York) and National Guard troops have been rolled out in Maryland and Georgia so far. During this winter flu season a minimum of 23,000 and possibly as many as 59,000 Americans have died from the flu (according to the CDC) cdc.gov So you really have to ask yourself, just what in the hell is going on? Over 22,000 died from H1N1 during 18 months of the Obama Admin's efforts (or non efforts) to fight it and never was there any alarm spread such as we see today. Is this all hype to set up a change in our current system, or do they know something about Covid19 they are not telling us?

To: Kirk © who wrote (8529)	3/21/2020 5:53:24 AM
From: Winfastorlose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26631

San Francisco a ghost town. Outside the apartment- 5pm Rush hour Bay Street - normally packed w cars - commuters— like a ghost town #sf #SanFrancisco #sanfranciscoLockdown pic.twitter.com/PSmUNoFzGm — Jack Hutton (@jackhutton) March 18, 2020

To: Kirk © who wrote (8529)	3/21/2020 5:58:47 AM
From: w0z	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26631

The next time I hear someone say "it's just the flu" I'll suggest they watch this...very disturbing. I had a discussion today with a gal I helped raise who is now an MD in So. Cal about ways to get extra life out of her surgical masks.... (BTW I noticed none of the staff in that video were using N95 masks...only the reporter who also had goggles). Would you please share what you concluded? I have a couple of boxes of N95s left from the 2003 SARS outbreak but have not yet used them since we only have 1 confirmed case in our rural county so far (just reported yesterday). I'm thinking of reusing them by spraying the outside with Lysol after each use when it becomes prudent to use them while grocery shopping.

To: Kirk © who wrote (8529)	3/21/2020 7:46:41 AM
From: w0z	1 Recommendation Recommended By berniel Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 26631

Maybe 6 feet is not enough! Keep your distance Over the last decade, Lydia Bourouiba, an associate professor directing the Fluid Dynamics of Disease Transmission Laboratory at MIT, has focused on characterizing and modeling infectious disease dynamics and transmission at various scales. Through experiments in the lab and clinical environment, she has reported that when a person coughs or sneezes, they do not emit a spray of individual droplets that quickly fall to the ground and evaporate, as scientists had once thought. Instead, they produce a complex cloud of hot and moist air that traps droplets of all sizes together, propelling them much further through the air than any individual droplet would travel on its own. On average, her experiments have revealed that a cough can transmit droplets up to 13 to 16 feet, while a sneeze can eject them up to 26 feet away. Surrounding air conditions can act to further disperse the residual droplets in upper levels of rooms. Bourouiba notes that the presence of the high-speed gas cloud is independent of the type of organism or pathogen that the cloud may contain. The droplets within it depend on pathogenesis coupled with a patient’s physiology — a combination which her laboratory has focused on deciphering in the context of influenza. She is now expanding her studies and modeling to translate the work to Covid-19, and says now is a critical time to invest in research. “This virus is going to stay with us for a while — and certainly data suggest that it is not going to suddenly disappear when the weather changes,” she says. “There’s a fine and important balance between safety, precautions and action that is important to strike to enable and dramatically accelerate research to be done now so we can be better prepared and informed for actions in the weeks and months to come when the worst of the pandemic will unfold.” She is also working with others to evaluate ways to limit a cloud’s dispersal and slow Covid-19 transmission to health care workers and others in shared spaces. “A surgical mask is not protective against inhalation of a pathogen from the cloud,” she says. “For an infected patient wearing it, it can contain some of the forward ejecta from coughs or sneezes, but these are very violent ejections and masks are completely open on all sides, and fluid flows through the path of least resistance.” Based on the data, she recommends that health care workers consider wearing a respirator, whenever possible. And, for the general public, Bourouiba emphasizes that the risk of contracting COVID-19 remains relatively low locally, and that risk should be thought of in the context of the community.