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To: koan who wrote (480352)9/30/2021 11:30:54 AM
From: epicure  Respond to of 541219
 
lol
I do see it as cultural evolution. What I don't do is see it exactly the way you do. But I'm not going to try to beat a dead horse and explain it.



To: koan who wrote (480352)9/30/2021 12:01:04 PM
From: S. maltophilia4 Recommendations

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bentway
Cogito Ergo Sum
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koan

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Can't you see how much more civilized we are today than 100 years ago when women could not vote and we had two world wars and we were just 60 years past slavery?

As Steven Pinker said in his book:" the Nature of our Better Angles" this is the most peaceful time in history.

And speaking a lot of languages does not mean one is smart, a five year old child could speak 6 languages if one lived in an environment that allowed that.


I read this weirdly fascinating book a few years ago by William Byrd, Virginia plantation owner and ancestor of the W. Virginia political dynasty.

A typical passage, paraphrased from memory:

Tuesday: Got up this morning and read some Plato [in the original]. Checked the fences by the river.Gave the wife a flourish and had the slave girl whipped.

Wednesday: Have to get ready to go to the Assembly this evening. Read some Marcus Aurelius. I'm worried about the prices we'll get from the tobacco we're shipping to England. Gave the slave girl a flourish and had the wife whipped.

THE GREAT AMERICAN GENTLEMAN, THE SECRET DIARY OF WILLIAM BYRD OF WESTOVER 1709-1712.https://www.amazon.com/American-Gentleman-William-Westover-Virginia/dp/B000BFPA5O



To: koan who wrote (480352)9/30/2021 7:07:18 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum1 Recommendation

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I take EXTREME exception koan to the number of languages statement

And speaking a lot of languages does not mean one is smart, a five year old child could speak 6 languages if one lived in an environment that allowed that.

You are demonstrating the exact bias you decry .. Your statement is SO WRONG and actually bullshit.. polyglot is exceptional ... 2 3 lingos .. yeah not really meaning exceptionalism ..

My mother tongue is English.. I started French early at the foot of my grandma who had maybe grade 5 ed.. so my French is not pretty but my comprehension is complete .. I can THINK in French

I Also understand a good bit of Cantonese/Taishan (Hoisan wah) and a bit of Mando and Spanish .. enough to get by.. I can THINK in Cantonese

Understanding a language makes understanding how folks think a LOT EASIER...

translation is not the same..

so yeah I am not exceptional.. but then again I have not really bothered to learn more.. no time :)

When we have elections in our country I always listen to both english and french debates... politicians do not say the same things in these debates... without the knowledge of language U R at a n Extreme disadvantage

in Canada French and English humour are not the same... I get BOITH.. They are different ...

Language does matter and imparts intelligence.. and requires same ..

rarely I disagree.. but you are dead wrong on that one