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To: skinowski who wrote (759122)	3/11/2022 9:33:54 AM
From: locogringo	2 Recommendations Recommended By pak73 skinowski Respond to of 793838

Looks like stability will not happen unless Ukraine stays out of NATO - which was a dangerous and idiotic idea all along. Zelensky gave up on that idea the other day and stated it publicly. Not a peep out of bungling Biden nor NATO, nor the clown VP travelling to Romania today. (hope she can find it) Zelensky gives up on joining NATO, says he does not … wionews.com. 2 days ago · Volodymyr Zelensky has announced that Ukraine will no longer be seeking NATO membership, a delicate issue cited by Russia as a reason for invading its pro-Western neighbor. Zelensky also said he is open to "compromise" over the status of two breakaway pro-Russ

To: skinowski who wrote (759122)	3/11/2022 10:34:35 AM
From: fred woodall	11 Recommendations Recommended By Bill greenspirit isopatch kckip locogringo and 6 more members Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793838

Oh, the problems are so complex. UN, NATO and US leadership only one direction. Millions paying the price. I know one thing beyond any doubt. Donald Trump have all of this resolved within three weeks! Anyone say otherwise is an idiot.

To: skinowski who wrote (759122)	3/11/2022 11:17:21 AM
From: greenspirit	2 Recommendations Recommended By DinoNavarre kckip Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793838

Capitulating to evil and demands by Kleptocrats like Putin is not the answer. There is a reason he never acted aggressively when we had leadership under President Trump. Empty vacuous leadership emboldened him to strike. Despite the repeated drumbeat, this invasion has little to do with NATO. Did he take the Crimea because of NATO a few years ago? NATO is just an excuse for the naked aggression and land grab. That’s been substantiated by his unwillingness to end the conflict, despite being offered no NATO interest by Ukraine. Ukraine and their people can decide the future they want. We are now seeing if they are up to the challenge. Putin and the Russians may end up seeing missiles hit red square before this is over. If I were flying a MIG , why stop at the border and bomb tank columns when you can hit red square? We are witness to a generation that knew nothing about the evils of Russian Dictators until Feb 24 of this year. The world has been re-awakened, and you can’t wish for the genie to be put back in the bottle. Memories live long, the Ukraine and newly developing former Russian controlled states have taken notice. We should stay out of it in so far as direct military assistance. Economic is another thing entirely. The best thing we can do to hit them hard is what Trump was doing, drill baby drill! Innovate too. 20 years from now their society will look third world again. I feel bad for the millions of decent Russian people who will now become poorer and shut off from the rest of the world. It was nice running into them at Disneyworld for a few decades. The real change has to begin within Russia, they need to build a more just society and elect leaders who will support it. Unfortunately, they took the path of corruption and Kleptacracy when the iron curtain fell. The worst thing we did in hindsight was push for Ukraine to give up their nucs. One or two nucs would have kept the Bear in its den!