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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (759636)	3/18/2022 6:34:52 AM
From: carranza2	6 Recommendations Recommended By Alan Smithee Alias Shrugged D. Long Joe Btfsplk pheilman_ and 1 more member Respond to of 793690

I also disagree with Kissinger on Crimea. Putin is indeed a thug and a murderer, a despicable human being, but that fact should not drive our policy. The world is full of leaders who are thugs and murderers. Except for AMLO, every single Mexican President of the past century was a corrupt thug and assassin. We ignored that fact because Mexico is extremely important to our national security. And we’ll ignore it in the future. Virtue-signaling is extremely dangerous because it cannot help but be selective. We cannot virtue-signal on every single global thug and assassin, e.g., Mexican presidents, leaving the virtue-signaler open to a valid charge of hypocrisy, which is virtue-destroying. Biden virtue-signaled re: the Kashoggi murder. What has that gained us? Salman’s upraised middle finger to America at a time when we need Saudi oil. It gained us Saudi support for petroyuans, and a $10bn refinery in China for Russian oil financed by the Saudis. The enormous resources we spent over decades to secure Saudi oil are now gone with the wind, thanks to an very ill-advised episode of virtue-signaling. That is why Biden publicly calling Putin a war criminal is a bad idea. This kind of personalization might be good domestically but it is poison diplomatically. He need to know when to STFU but he’s too stupid to do so. Virtue signalers also have the consistency of gnats. If things in Ukraine slow down to a less lethal conflict, a slow slog, the media will stop its emphasis on Putin, and the signalers will go to the Next Thing that will make them think that they are the next iteration of Mother Theresa.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (759636)	3/18/2022 11:45:00 AM
From: skinowski	4 Recommendations Recommended By ig Kahlua lightshipsailor Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793690

>>The virtue signaling mass hysteria to demonise Putin and go MAD is insane<< I suspect there may be a system behind the Putin hysteria. Quite likely, it’s part of preparing the public mood for war. “Normally”, enemies must be made subjects of hate. They must be dehumanized. These days, it’s not culturally acceptable to demonize an entire people. Can’t call all Russians paranoid, too warlike, descendants of Gengis Khan - and other such racist stuff. The solution is to have a massive propaganda campaign to make the entire conflict appear to be the doing of one individual - their crazy evil dictator. Boom! And it’s done - the dude is indeed not hard to hate. Symbolically, the enemy can be dehumanized and hated in the person of Putin. Result is the same - it’s a step towards war. Putin Must Die!

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (759636)	3/18/2022 7:23:48 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	Respond to of 793690

The virtue signaling mass hysteria to demonise Putin and go MAD is insane ........time to release the "slaughterbots".........the ultimate headache characterize / release swarm / target evil ideology right where it starts bing.com Evil Ideology

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (759636)	3/18/2022 8:55:12 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793690

What’s remarkable is how long Putin has been able to use publicists and western news media outlets to fool so many that he should be treated as a “Statesman”, when he is nothing more than a cold blooded killer, running a ruthless mob that pretends to be about prosperity for the people of Russia. That charade has been going on for decades, as his regime is invited to dine with other country leaders and be treated as a dignitary. He’s nothing but a Chavez with nuclear weapons. Because he has nucs so many cow-tow to him and find excuses for behavior I would describe as diabolically evil. Nothing he has done, or is doing will benefit the people of Russia long term. Instead, through his actions, the country will likely be set back decades and never rise to be a real success. The brain drain spicket has been opened wide. Intelligent Russians will vote with their feet if they still have a chance to leave.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (759636)	3/18/2022 9:07:00 PM
From: didjuneau	2 Recommendations Recommended By kckip Stock Puppy Respond to of 793690

Dr. Whinelove. Tried to start a war. Released on St. Patrick's Day. You know who I'm talking about? Juicy Sommelier. Juicy Sommelier is a very famous whine server from France. You see, Juicy Sommelier is not just French, but he has the luck o' the Irish as well. (Biden Irish.) Poor guy, has PTSD. Post Traumatic Subway Disorder? Nope. Something far worse. Message 33762291 (Punishment will be served. He's right - it never gets old!) twitter.com This will never get old... https://t.co/RS3fstCPHJ — Dirty Dog (@DustinA66460461) March 11, 2022 (Juicy should be so lucky.)