To: robert b furman who wrote (13964 ) 6/9/2022 11:25:07 PM From: TigerPaw Respond to of 26768 If cheaper now, does that suggest the rebates and subsidies can now be waived? The question can be understood when you wonder why were there rebates and subsidies at all ? If it's a great idea wouldn't it just win in the marketplace on it's own ? The answer is that rebates were necessary to overcome the "moats" that large complexes of companies, we used to call them gorillas, put around their products. There are barriers for the EV market to realize their efficiencies. The biggest barrier is that it is danged difficult to make a new car company, take DeLorean as an example. Does anyone really believe he was some kind of drug dealer when he was run out of business ? The difference this time is that Musk had billions of PayPal dollars instead of bank loans. So, your question is whether rebates are needed now. My guess is not for Tesla, but rebates would speed up the adoption of EVs and that is a benefit. Rebates are probably still needed by Rivian which does run on debt. Competition to Tesla would be good for the market and innovation. GM actually pioneered the modern electric car, the EVI. It appeared to be successful, but was killed by GM because it threatened their main business. Tesla got it's start from the layed off staff of the EVI division. I fear that Ford would repeat that mistake without a robust EV market. There are a lot of forces that want to stop Tesla, it wouldn't take much to charge Musk with a drug violation of some type in Texas. There are also attempts to sue the software into oblivion. I think government support, whether that be rebates or common sense is still needed.