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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (7620)10/3/2023 4:06:47 PM
From: Sean Collett  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10713
 
I shared my take on the value investing side here but I do not see the QRTEP as the best use of money if you're bullish on Qurate at all. I have my value analysis there in the recent posts too.

From one of those posts I made this morning:

<< If you are bullish on their turnaround and do see them as a value play then the common seems to be the better buy right now.

If I took $1,000.00 I only get 44 shares of QRTEP at a current price of $22.90/s, but with QRTEA I get 1,818 shares at a current price of $0.55/s.

Complete hypothetical, but let's say the positive impacts from Project Athens begin to be felt and the fear of bankruptcy subsides and investors return. If I held QRTEP to collect all dividend payments and the stock, again hypothetical here, returned to its 52-week high of $53.96 ($61.96 would be price with dividend payments included), this turns a $1,000 investment into $2,705.54 for a profit of $1,705.54.

If QRTEA returned to its 52-week high of $2.84/s, then this turns the $1,000.00 investment into $5,170.00 for a profit of $4,170.00.

Both have same assumed risk of bankruptcy but given how beaten down the common is the potential for return is greater even with the dividend that QRTEP is paying.>>

Just some thought on them if you are adding them to the watch list.

-Sean



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (7620)10/4/2023 10:17:21 AM
From: sixty2nds1 Recommendation

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  Respond to of 10713
 
Happy Hump Day to all

All comments appreciated.

I have, and will again be, wrong at Scale.

QRTEP is in a very small part of the Total Portfolio.

IF

This portion of the Total Portfolio went to ZERO it changes nothing.

IF

I get Lucky and make a run it will provide a slight enhancement.

QRTEP is not a short or medium time frame trade for me..
I plan to hold until March 2031 when the Preferred Stock is mandated to be redeemed at $100/sh.

My best guess...

The FCF burned by he now sold off Zulilly division was larger than commonly estimated....

Zulilly was "sold" in May for future considerations.
There was $80,000,000 in Zulilly debt paid off.
Zulilly is 100% off the books.

There was a hint at that FCF burn in the last Q reported August 4th.

We will have more info when the current Q reports.

I remain committed to DRIP and buying QRTEP this 4th calendar Q.

Based on the upcoming Q report I will decide to The Boat is loaded at 2X or proceed to 3X.
I will most likely evaluate on a Q X Q basis.
I do not need to proceed directly to 3X.
If I have a "better" opportunity I might stop at 2X or 2.25X

From my perspective...
The Common needs a successful QURATE turnaround.
By that I mean a return to profitable growth.

THAT will push the common price to $3 and above where I think the common is buyable again.
THAT will take at least 4 more Q's, probably 8.

The Preferred just needs the business to muddle through.

Cheers,
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