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To: gregor who wrote (568)2/25/1998 9:10:00 PM
From: Kenneth Kirk  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1283
 
Dear Brother Gregor, once again your wisdom and grasp of scripture reminds me that I am but a baby Christian. What a great response to the question about tithing. However...didn't Jesus make reference to tithing? I seem to recall at least one, somewhere in the NT.

While I don't feel bound by Leviticus and the rest of the OT laws, I do look to them for some guidance as to what the Lord would like us to do. This year I'm doing the One-Year Bible thing, and I've noticed how many of those laws undoubtedly had good practical reasons for them. It may have had to do with hygeine, good community relations, or whatever, but there was invariably more to it than just God showing that mankind would not obey his commands. So, what was the reason for the tithe? Could it be that God felt this was an appropriate amount to contribute for sacred purposes? And if so, why would it be any different today? Anyone at any income can live on 90% of earnings, today as then. And, if a community is tithing 10%, the priests/churches should have sufficient resources to do God's work.

As to where to pay it, there was a priesthood then, there is a clergy now, so I always pay to the church. Since I attend a church I believe is doing the Lord's work, I tithe there. If I want to support Promise Keepers or whatever, I can reach down deeper than the tithe.
As to the poor, Christ listed alms as one of the pillars of righteousness.

At this point I feel compelled to confess that I do not always faithfully tithe, but I aspire.

In Christ, Ken.



To: gregor who wrote (568)2/28/1998 11:32:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1283
 
My dear Gregor, about the money left in the checking account advise to Grant. That is exactly why I was nervously confessing to you that I was holding money I knew should go, but it too was kind of sitting in my checking account.

Now, I was NOT SURE anyone was actually deserving of the money, you understand, and didn't want to just throw it out there to be done with it.

Finally went to a loca;l ministry which is just a building ministering to local kids, most of whom have real homes, but are also mostly punk rock nightmare kids literally going to hell in the little handbasket they all jump into so happily. EXACTLY like Pinnochio's Bad Boys Circus, with the circus cart and the fun it was on the way to the circus, and the circus so much fun, and Jimminy Cricket going nuts trying to get Pinno'c attention---

GOOD GRIEF! I just realized! This is a Christian Allegory-- duh...

So, I go to drop a check finally and end up in the best meeting since the late 70's when it all went south on most of us.

It also seems that much, much prayer was lifted by these kids, mostly, for Greg, the guy in his 30's who struggles to keep a home and 3 kids going while he also singlehandedly maintains this growing ministry for anyone, come who may. The prayers were for the "financial problems Greg had been having", and part of that is that he rents the building on faith for $1,200 per month, and the utilities, etc., are killers. What doesn't come in he makes up for, because he told the Lord he would.

So, there I was with his tithe in my checking account, leading to the pressure in his life that caused him on the job to be just sloppy enough to hit a nail just so that it shot right into his eye requiring emergency surgery. That the day before I showed up after months of absence because I'm too lazy to participate and contribute my time. I prefer heading home to my fun stuff. All things will of course work for good, but I was very enlightened by what I saw in the Spirit of this
small Christian drama.

Just a comment to shed light on anything we're trying to see here.

Ken, I sure hope that if you're reading this you understand it. I type very fast and hate to edit.