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To: (Bob) Zumbrunnen who wrote (437)	3/10/1998 11:53:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1614

But you know, that kind of exchange of information, between dedicated longs and dedicated shorts can produce some good information. The weensels (weenies X weasels) of either stripe should not be allowed to go and whine to the webmistress and have the debate shut down. I see the "facts" in these cases as highly subjective, so the more dialog the better. That does not of course include SEC violations, (but it doesn't look like there were any of those), distracting name calling, threats and harassment. People who "slam" stocks can be just as valuable a source of information as people who shamelessly tout them. Just my opinion, but of course it is the RIGHT one.

To: (Bob) Zumbrunnen who wrote (437)	3/10/1998 12:00:00 PM
From: Pugs	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1614

Bob, I'm amused by your revisionist ideas of history. You can go thru the RMIL threads' logs, do your DD on Kugler, you will find him posting, at his peak, 8-10 hours a day, 7 days a week. I think logic would tell one, even if Kugler is sincere in trying to reveal a scam, any laymen can see that his pathological obsession to tank RMIL is an indicator that maybe there is something more there than 'humanitarian' concerns. His history of working with the other shareshaker is also documented on S.I., on the KNIC thread, etc. I submitted the posts to Dagny Young, the compliance officer at Principal who was not aware of to the extent he posted, he no longer posts. If you are arguing that the OTC BB is not be abused by illegal , undeclared, naked shorting, that is your opinion, I respect that., IMO, we caught the MM's with their pants down to the 'estimated' tune of 5-6MM undeclared, naked, shortsold shares. If your opinion is the short position is not that large, fine, our feelings differ. The math can be found doing DD on the RMIL thread. But, we have 2.13MM shares certified in a float of 2.17MM shares with 3.3MM shares called. There are 44K posts on the RMIL thread, a non-trading BB stock, most slamming the stock relentlessly. I don't care what you think, but respect your opinion to think that. <EOD> Pugs