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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (18330)	3/14/1998 12:51:00 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Michael, "Let me ask you this. Do you think we should change the laws and allow mothers and sons to marry each other? How about brothers and sisters?" What do marriages between mothers and sons or brothers and sisters have to do with homosexuality? I don't understand the link, unless it is to say that one is as bad as the other. As recently as 20 years ago or so, it was against the law in many places for a black person and a white person to have a child together. And 40 years ago in many places, blacks and whites weren't allowed to drink from the same water fountain. We have to be very careful about our "feelings" that something is "repugnant", and try to discover reasons for them before we think that they should be imposed politically on the general populace. (Frankly, to say that "Because the Bible says so" doesn't qualify as a reason; among other problems, there just are far too many different interpretations of the Bible to rely on that in a pluralist society such as our own.) This certainly involves all sorts of irritations, but the alternative is too often ghastly. Did anyone see 20/20 last night? Story about 2 gay public school teachers, one male one female, who were thought of as wonderful teachers until it was discovered that they were gay. One was hounded out of his job and later died of a heart attack, the other was relieved of various coaching duties (after all, she was a bad influence on the girls) though not her job. Just the tip of the iceberg--such discrimination happens all the time. The piece included an interview with a minister who believed that no gay people should be allowed to teach children. As if pedofilia & being gay were synonymous. Or perhaps he was worried that if kids got to know someone gay who was an admirable person they might not be able to judge them negatively.

To: greenspirit who wrote (18330)	3/14/1998 3:04:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I suppose it's the same way I feel when I see or hear a person cursing around children or spitting allot. Or when I hear of a person marrying a sibling. Okay, it's personally distasteful to you. Many things are personally distasteful to me as well: gum chewing, for example. I don't recommend that it be outlawed, nor do I even consider it debauched behavior. Um, how many people have you heard of who've married siblings? Let me ask you this. Do you think we should change the laws and allow mothers and sons to marry eachother? How about brothers and sisters? Personally I could care less. Though I think such a proposal would necessitate a serious investigation of the statistical probablity of increased hereditary medical problems. Voluntary sterilization could be required, but of course that opens a whole new can of worms. And do you feel it is only a matter of time before we accept these kinds of relationships the same way we accept homosexual relationships today? Probably not. As I've said, in our society, as in most, the incest taboo is extremely strong.