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To: O'Hara who wrote (11758)	3/18/1998 2:07:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"More specifically There are no J's in the hebrew tongue, and therefore His mother, father,and all who knew Him called Him by His given name...Yeshua... which is translated ..Jesus...in english....for our convenience." All of the biblical and historical records show that Jesus was called Yesus and not Yeshua. The Jewish Apostles and disciples called him Yesus in the inspired writings. Why dont you simply produce one biblical quote or historical quote where Jesus was ever called Yeshua? You will not produce it because it does not exist. It is only carnal Jewish arrogance that rejects the historical and living Body of Christ--the Christian Church and teachings--and attempts unscrptural innovations to justify their pride and arrogance.

To: O'Hara who wrote (11758)	3/18/1998 5:31:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Shalom, If I spoke Hebrew and we all did here then maybe we would say Yeshua, but we are speaking English here. Emile says the name is used in the Babylonian Talmud. That makes sense if it is the real Hebrew name for Jesus. But we don't speak Hebrew here and it does come across as an attempt to bring us all back to the law and keeping it's commands. The constant repetition from Nancy & Alan about the law and Yeshua does seem like an attempt to convince us we should be as they are. If not why don't they just do what they want and quit bragging about it? So far they have said many unscriptural things yet they are applauded and defended. Why Shalom? Bob

To: O'Hara who wrote (11758)	3/18/1998 11:23:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Well, interesting subject, Shalom, and one I must butte in on as usual. The name Yeshua. That WAS the Lord Jesus Christ's name. The name given whereby all men could be saved was in fact, Yeshua, if I am to believe the Bible. And I believe that I do, in fact, believe the Bible. Why was it necessary to change Yeshua to Jesus? Jesus had no meaning whatsoever. I think it is interesting to look up where and why the Holy Spirit (humm? Was it?) Assigned the new name of "Jesus". Good study. Where in the world did Jesus come from? What bearing does it have on Yeshua? Yeshua seems to me to be perfect. Yeshua the Christos, the Christ, the annointed one. It seems that the only strange word here is the English/Germani Jesus. I just don't know why it was necessary in the first place to depart from the original name of Jesus. John is from Johannanan, Simon is Peter, all names were changed to please the English of King James Court. Of all things not to condemn, calling Jesus by the name GOD gave Him at birth seems something that should be unworthy of any Christian's scorn. Is there a problem with this? You bet, since I tended to think of the apostles myself as Englishmen until I got saved and realized how rediculous that was. Can any of this "Yeshua" should not be spoken among us--only the English or whatever version is Holy--behavior ACTUALLY be inspired by the Holy Spirit? ANd if not, who inspires it? Good question, isn't it? I definitely think it is, and this whole sick mess is starting over again, isn't it?