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To: Grainne who wrote (15485)5/31/1998 4:45:00 PM
From: Lady Lurksalot  Respond to of 20981
 
CGB,

You write, "There is sort of a rule that American's leaders do not criticize our foreign policy outside of the U.S., which Gingrich violated. Sort of the same concept as when Jane Fonda went to Hanoi, but not nearly as serious, of course." in your post at this URL:

207.183.153.73

I am confused. Are you now saying that you do not believe Jane Fonda was a patriot, contrary to your previous statements in numerous posts here at SI?

I guess I can see how you might be a Jerry Brown fan.

For those interested, here's a replay of my recent Jerry Brown post:

207.183.153.73

Holly



To: Grainne who wrote (15485)5/31/1998 5:51:00 PM
From: Jack Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20981
 
Christine,

Jack, Jerry Brown is complicated, and enigmatic.

As usual, your thoughtful comments provide me with some additional stimulation. I did read some of the position papers of Jerry Brown. I think he is dead wrong on capital punishment, but one must respect his views. I agree with you that his radicalism is appealing in this me-too environment of the Republicrats who now run our nation. You are also correct in saying that we should not always hold someone responsible for his views or statements of twenty years ago (unless one has restated them.) Certainly I would not want to be held to that standard and would feel foolish if some of my college essays were read to me.

Whatever Jerry Brown's virtues or shortcomings, we should all admire him for his forthrightness and for saying what he (apparently) believes. We could say the same for a strikingly different and equally controversial political figure -- Pat Buchanan. Barry Goldwater shared that virtue. Like them and their viewpoints or not, what they say is what they believe. I like that and can deal with such a person.

On the other hand Holly's list of offenses

Message 4649466

is pretty devastating. I wonder how Brown would reply to those facts now?

Jack