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To: Grainne who wrote (22734)6/4/1998 2:06:00 AM
From: Krowbar  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Hi Christine, Here's more news about the role of the Vatican in WW2.

A new report by the State Department says Catholic priests in Rome helped Croatian leaders, who sent up to 700,000 Serbs, Jews and others to death camps, to hide in Italy after the war and eventually flee to South America. The report, which focuses on how Nazi gold was shipped through neutral countries to finance the German war effort, points out that much of its information, from British and American intelligence files, could not be confirmed.

But the report says it is quite likely that the Vatican was aware of the efforts by priests at the San Girolamo Croatian College in Rome to help the Ustasha, as the Croatian fascist rulers were known....

nytimes.com

I'm wondering why this is not being discussed on dateline or something, and not stuck in the middle of the paper, where few people tread. A big can of worms? Oh, that's right. It's impolite to ask religious figures about such things. They wouldn't want to embarrass them, would they?

Del




To: Grainne who wrote (22734)6/4/1998 2:09:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
I agree. I think too many free thinkers would create chaos. I had this discussion a while back on Rambi. It hit me one day that maybe some people, and not very many, were born without the capacity to believe- the way most folks seem to be. I evolved this theory in a completely unscientific way (I freely admit that) to explain my own utter lack of credence in anything. I do not understand people who can believe, but there are a great many more of them than there are of me- and I have always been curious as to why I am not one of them.



To: Grainne who wrote (22734)6/4/1998 9:46:00 AM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
WHAT ARE FRIENDS FOR?

A man on his deathbed summoned his lawyer and long time friend to make some confessions to him.

"Remember when the authorities investigated you for stealing your clients' escrow money and settlement checks? It's a miracle you weren't disbarred. Well, I want you to know I was the one who turned you in. It was because I didn't like the dishonest streak you acquired after becoming a lawyer; I thought that the shock would change you back."

"Don't worry about it," said the lawyer, "Take it easy, you're dying."

"And remember when you bribed that Supreme Court judge, and the US Attorney investigated you for the next five years, but you beat the rap on that one too? I want you to know it was I who called the feds for the same reason."

"And remember when your wife found out you were having an affair with the summer law student you hired, and she divorced you? Well, I was the one who tipped her off."

"Now there, there," soothed the lawyer, "bygones are bygones."

"Now that I got that load off my chest, I can die in peace knowing that
you forgive me."

"Forgive you?" exclaimed the lawyer, "Who do you think poisoned you?"




To: Grainne who wrote (22734)6/4/1998 9:51:00 AM
From: Father Terrence  Respond to of 108807
 
Christine:

Creators do not need followers, powerseekers need followers.

Creators create for the sake of creating and couldn't care less for the "great unwashed".

A capitalist creator does care about a fellow human and assumes all men are worthy of respect until proven otherwise. The trader philosophy assumes the best in men: that each has something of value to offer.

FT