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To: Dusty who wrote (1173)6/20/1998 12:31:00 PM
From: Ga Bard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7039
 
As a Private Investor: Oh you want play that game huh ... I guess the same place where you hindsight and your great researching abilities was. We have been duped by one man and you can blame whoever and whatever you want to. You have been one of the researchers supporting this stock and so forth for MONTHS!!!. WHere is all your so called great DD on the patents or revamp patents that were suppose to come to the shareholders. COme on DUSTY tell me were able to locate the patents and all the information yet. Can you verify John has what he says? Can you verify anything no one else can.... even with hindsight no one can verify a dang thing about the patents.

One minute you are thanking me the next you want to slam me. Character is character and the changing of attitude and so forth show exactly what a person is made of. There is no way ANYONE could have known what Dan was up to and if you try to tell me you did then we will just go to war.

You have not sat here and took all the calls and put yourself on the firinf line this week listening to all the rip offs that came about. Heck the internet is not where the money came fro to move this stock try the real world based on the news releases. Or Calls made by Dan Fisher promising bigh stock prices. There is a lot you do not know nor I knew till I started taking calls.

SO before you decide to expose yourself for some kind of hypocrit I suggest yo go back and remember what you posted over the past 5 months. Read the news releases and go back through your DD. Try to figure out why you made this investment before you decide to start blaming anyone but a well organized planner that is alleged to have sold illegal shares, embezzled the company and ran off with the company money to the Bahamas.

Enlighten us on your wonderful wisdom after the fact Dusty come on I want to see this ... You pride yourself on DD as others do now you tell me how anyone could have discovered what was going on.

I will be waiting for this.

DF-144 is real and everything but the patent and NO ONE knows to date whether John has what he says or not. Now you do your FBI hindsight thing ok ... but think before you slam me for you were verifying every step of the way.

Now I am doing all I can for the shareholders and those that support the DD and verification process what the devil are you doing. NOTHING but complaining. There is nothing anyone can do but Mark Pierce which is why he was made President.

GB



To: Dusty who wrote (1173)6/20/1998 1:17:00 PM
From: Binder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7039
 
Hi Dusty,
We can all sit here and blame each other for this situation, but in my opinion, that is pointless.

All of the DD in the world could not have forseen this, because one cannot predict a dishonest act.

In actuality, Dan Fisher allegedly issued to himself illegal shares of stock, then sold them on the open market, absconding to the Bahamas with the money. How could that possibly be the fault of anyone on this thread? It is clearly the fault of Fisher, along with the newly appointed hand picked T/A, and also any broker who traded these shares, knowing that Fisher was a CEO, (which he publicized), with no SEC forms filed to allow the sale of the stock.

In my opinion, the people on this thread could have done absolutely no DD at all on this stock, and we still would have seen the end result turn out the same, because the heavy buying STILL would have come into it based on the Exxon news release and the promises Fisher made. IMO, Fisher made the Exxon release to draw international attention to Arcon and bring the big bucks into the company, because he was not getting the kind of money he wanted into the company from the internet investors. Once that announcement was made, big bucks started coming in, and Fisher allegedly started getting out.

Now what I want to know is how any amount of DD in the world could have predicted that. And before you go and say "his background & character should have been checked", I will ask, why didn't you check it? We all have the same resources available to us. We all have the internet, and we all had phone numbers for Arcon and for Dan Fisher and for John Spriggs. Heck, some of us even talked to them! So, if you are going to blame Gary for this, go ahead and blame me too, and others, like Jeff Rainey, Jimbo, James Scanlon, Wayne B., Jeff Harrington, Sheri, Charger, Earl, and even yourself, because we ALL had access to the same DD, and we ALL missed it.

As far as the patents go, it is not uncommon for a company to try to "hide" a patent. In the insurance industry, we are required by various regulatory authorities to file our rates. In order to avoid our competitors from finding our rates, we "hide" them under various subcompanies. Heck, I have been digging for 2 years to try to find one of my competitors, with no luck! We all had the same information, and we all made a conscious decision to buy this stock.

Now, in hindsight, the lesson I have learned from all of this is that when your stock suddenly gets a new transfer agent for no apparant reason, send up a red flag. I may be wrong about that, but I know if that ever happens again, that will be my reaction.

:-)
Anna