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To: freeus who wrote (42)	6/29/1998 11:04:00 AM
From: Mama Bear	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13056

freeus, you obviously have some sort of problem that causes you to overgeneralize people and to put them into nice compartmentalized groups that you can manage in your small mind. Barb

To: freeus who wrote (42)	6/29/1998 11:19:00 AM
From: MeDroogies	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13056

I have noticed a significant change in my wife's views as she and I have spent our lives together (7 years now - 6 married). I have always gravitated toward more "liberal"(sorry - hate that term, but it IS mainstream) types, and she was one. She and I would go at it hammer and tongs. (I'm not telling this story as an "I'm superior" type - just the facts...) Invariably, when confronted with the FACT that people have to make choices in life and that sometimes they AREN'T always the best ones...my wife had to concede that life is unfair and the playing field cannot be levelled for EVERYONE. Therefore, ANY levelling for a small minority becomes an imbalance AGAINST fairness in the realm of decision making. Slowly, she has come over from "the dark side" (LOL - just a joke, oh me brothers and loved ones) and is now NOT Libertarian (still too loosey goosey for her tastes), but NOT LIBERAL in any way, shape or form. She freely admits this, too, and points to the emotional nature of her being as the source of her original beliefs. She freely admits it is the nurturing aspect of her life (a mother of two) that leads her to feel more compassionate... Not that I am NOT compassionate...but I don't allow it to cloud rational decision making. In watching us with our children my father once commented "Why is she so protective and you let them pretty much investigate and test limits?" I replied "Because she is their mother, and feels compelled to prevent harm. I want to protect them from harm, too, but life is about testing limits and sometimes you get hurt doing that...." An oversimplification, maybe. But a very apt one. I don't believe that women are simple people who rely solely on emotion. But I would take issue with anyone who doesn't believe that women ARE more nurturing and emotional than men. Sorry if that is offensive...

To: freeus who wrote (42)	6/29/1998 11:48:00 AM
From: miraje	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13056

freeus, I'm sure you'll catch a lot of flack for stereotyping your gender. ;-) Sometimes, I am sad to say, I believe that women getting the vote was one of the downfalls of the country. I hear what you're saying, but the ends don't justify the means. Women tend to feel instead of think. They react instead of planning and carrying out. I know this is generalizing but I'm trying to respond to your question and generalizing is the only way I can. Women like to feel they are "helping" people. They often do not realize that the road to dependency and resentment is strewn with helping hands and helping deeds. Maternal urges transposed to support for government "nannyism"? I do know women who think quite clearly. And a number of men who don't. Do you find it a bit ironic that the greatest champion of reason, Ayn Rand, was so untypical of her gender? I'm sure you hate to generalize and stereotype as much as I do. The only minority whos rights concern me is the most endangered minority of all, the individual. Regards, JB