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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (23108)6/29/1998 10:25:00 PM
From: George S. Montgomery  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
"Water under the bridge" is such an abysmal way to toss aside the atrocities of our power-grabbing, ruthless species. gsm.



To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (23108)6/30/1998 5:26:00 PM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
Dwight, I disagree with you about the Indians. I would be very happy to give them their land back. I think all white Americans should do the decent thing and return to Europe, where they came from. I have studied Indian culture since I was a small child, and passed on my respect for the Indians, their spirituality and their value systems, to my daughter. I support candidates for public office wherever I find them who honor Indians politically, especially our treaties with them. I support the American Indian College Fund with my contributions, so that Indians can attend college and hopefully law school, so they can reassert themselves in this country. I hope they take it back! I hope at some point America apologizes for our deliberate destruction of their culture in an organized way as the Australians did recently with their aborigines. I support the campaign to free Leonard Peltier, who is a political prisoner of the United States government. You have no right, really, to assume that my feelings about the Indians are actionless, Dwight.

As far as the rest of your post is concerned, I find it curious that allowing only male property owners to vote still conferred full rights on all men. Isn't voting in itself a right in a free country? I stand on my position that the framers of the constitution did not in any way believe that all men (and women) were created equal. They just meant that all white male property owners were created equal. It is in many ways a wonderful document, but I don't see why we need to glorify and explain away injustices. They looked at life from an eighteenth century perspective, not a modern one, and that is why their sentiments cannot be considered binding for all time in their original form. And I forgot to add that in this country, homosexuals still are not created equal, and do not have full human or civil rights. So this country still needs to make more progress.