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To: Grainne who wrote (23261)7/5/1998 7:33:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
If I take your criticism of this girl seriously, it seems like you are saying that you believe in a more totalitarian state, where everyone can be forced to pledge allegiance. Is that correct?

Did I say anywhere that the girl didn't have any freedom or right to not pledge allegiance to the American flag? No, I didn't. So why are you again making things up? Are you intentionally doing that?

The girl is stupid because she thinks she's making some kind of "statement" by refusing to pledge allegiance to the American flag, yet we presume she is an American. The flag is simply a symbol which we human beings who reside on this part of the N. American continent view as a symbol which represents the United States.

All this girl is saying is that she is confused, and/or has determined that she no longer wishes to be an American. She is certainly free to move to another country then, if she can find a place which will have her. Sounds like a personal problem, perhaps she could seek therapy for her confused "stateless" identity crisis.

Makes no difference to me whether or not she considers herself an American or not, but as long as she's living here and was born here, then she's just as much an American as the next human being born and living in America. The refusal to pledge allegiance is simply a hypocritical publicity stunt, probably staged by her mother, who I saw was speaking for the girl in the story. The mother/daughter obviously need psychiatric counseling, it sounds like to me, for having a "nationality disorder".

Perhaps since she's so unhappy living on the N. American continent, she would be happier in France, if they would have her? Maybe she could work on the Frenchies, and try to convince the French to give that money back to the Indians, that money which the US govt paid the French govt to buy "from the French" the Louisiana Purchase. Which if you remember your US history, included quite a bit more land than the Louisiana territory. Funny how a bastion of liberalism like France had no qualms about dealing in stolen land then. I wonder if the French have any "feelings" about making this matter right? It's certainly not too late to give the money back to the tribes which had this land stolen from them by the French.

Perhaps when you move to Europe, you can also lobby the French govt in this regard.

Cheers, and happy Fourth of July!

Your fellow US Citizen, who is very happy to pledge allegiance to the Flag he loves!

Dwight



To: Grainne who wrote (23261)7/5/1998 8:13:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Are you aware of the experiments where people are shown a copy of these documents, and most of them do not recognize what they are, and express the belief that they are radical, offering too many freedoms?

The point being what? That people of such uncommon ignorance are more than likely going to end up, or are already on America's burgeoning welfare roles? If so, I agree.