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To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/22/1998 5:41:00 PM
From: Dolfan  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50264
 
Dave,

Thanks for the greatest message I have read on SI.
Maybe you should start sending it to WSJ Interactive, Business Week, Individual Investor, Investors Daily...

Very eloquently put and I know all of us agree with you wholeheartedly. Let's start a thread on SI members demanding their Membership fee back from SI and see how long this goes on!

By the way I thought I found a stock where they weren't present, and surprise they showed up just when things starting taking off...hmmmmm
I won't publicly say which stock that is but I will tell you it has been the biggest volume mover for the last week of OTC stocks?
PM me and I will tell you.

Regards,
Mark



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/22/1998 6:47:00 PM
From: charles moore  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50264
 
SI is going to do NOTHING. I personally sent SI E-mail and received an answer from "BOB" after I was personally attacked by one of them by E-mail using Profanity every other word.

I pointed out several coincidences where an Individual seemed to be the same person and pointed out a message in which this Individual after being exposed wrote "I will post substantive info under a different alias"

To this Bob of SI informed me that he would do nothing and that it was each individual members duty to "disprove" and confront the individual and that Bob "saw no evidence of Individuals posing as and using an alias.

Charles



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/22/1998 7:58:00 PM
From: RocketMan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50264
 
Great post Dave! On a positive note, bashing of this nature only goes on with companies that are real, that someone is worried might really take off. Digitcom is one such company.




To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/22/1998 9:06:00 PM
From: ~Owl  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 50264
 
I mostly lurk, but as a small investor who has felt the sting of the tactics you so well describe, I had to thank you for your post.

Like they say, Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Something definitely smells here, and all our individual complaints to SI seem to be useless. I am sick and tired of this situation, and will gladly offer my full support to any group action to put an end to it. This is a plague on SI. Or is SI actually a benevolent host to this plague?

I'll bet there are thousands thinking along these same lines. What can we do?

Owl, real person, real profile, real disgusted.



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/22/1998 10:10:00 PM
From: Poet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50264
 
Dear Dave,

Haldol. It'll do wonders.
Poet



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/23/1998 12:58:00 AM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50264
 
*** POWERFUL BASHERS GAINING POWER ON SI? PLEASE READ! ***

(oh no !! the dreaded italics again !!!)

Mr. Gore:

I will repeat my response to another of your posts:

(Your #reply-5282025)

Just one person I know of lost $22,000 on MTEI and SGNC. I honestly believe he would not have lost that money if your friends had not invaded that thread. Even Janice, after you guys did your damage, admitted to me that MTEI is NOT a scam, and SGNC received major funding from the Batelle Institute, so I doubt they are either.

Not only are you making an accusation for which you show neither solid proof, nor the logic which you are using makes any sense, therefore you invalidate your own statements, and further you sound like a "blue special fool".

The financial markets have two functions:

1. Facilitate the financing of those companies that seek such financing, for whatever purpose they may publicly state.

2. For Investors and speculators to attempt to make money.

THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES OF SUCCESS.

Neither for the companies that participate, nor for the investors and speculators who also participate.

Market makers give liquidity and facilitate the function of an orderly market.

As in any other business, they are businessmen and do what they do to make money, no more, no less. They are not here to please you, nor are they in business for charitable purposes.

As in any other activity, there are those who are ethical, and there are those who are not.

The price of a stock goes up because there are more buyers than sellers..... the reverse is the result of more sellers than buyers.

Penny Stocks, are "story stocks" (for the most part). It is each investor's responsibility to properly evaluate their investment and/or speculation. Obviously "news" influence the decision making process of people to buy sell, hold, or do nothing, but in the end, the price goes up or down because there are either more buyers, or more sellers, as applicable.

If you feel that the "potential" reward of the penny stocks justifies the considerable risk that exists in them, PARTICULARLY when they are not REPORTING companies, then be a big boy, invest in the damned thing, but if the "Risk" part proves its case, over the "Reward" part, then do not blame the world for your bad decision.

Period!

The claim that the SI Universe "promotes" the influence of a specific group of posters, who according to you, (without proof), are some kind of "Cartel" that are after specific stocks that happen to be of your "choice" is not only ludicrous, but further it is stupid.

The reason, in my opinion, that there are a number of people that counter your statements in the manner of posting in specific threads, or whatever, you deem to be "attacks", is done, in part to have fun at the lunacies and absolute lack of logic behind stupid decisions to place money in companies that range from the result of a dream of well intentioned people, to outright scams, as the case may be applicable.

Remember that the FREE MARKET is the ultimate and final judge, and for you to suggest (and express), that a group of individuals have the force to "influence" the stock price" is at best naive.

Even if we assume that whatever the hell is said in SI (and I am simply making such assumption to simply make a point), would "influence" those people you mention, all I can say is you people better give the money to professional money managers, because either you have no idea what the hell you are doing, or, worse, you are a bunch of cry-babies that can not take a loss.
Take the above post as simply my opinion, read it and think, I do not need a response, as I simply do not have the time to answer your response, I rather spend my time looking at charts of companies that make me money not silly dreams that the odds of them coming to fruition, do not justify the tremendous risk one takes in the process.

As a suggestion, look at the charts of companies where the risk is far less than the stupid trash that the majority of the pennies are. If that still does not convince you, then may be you should seek for a school that offers a course in sound logic and common sense.

The above is only my opinion.

And of course, I mean this in a good way.....

Z.

Consider the following as well.....

"All the leaders of groups tend to be frauds. If they were not, it
would be impossible for them to retain the allegiance of their dupes"...

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"One seldom discovers a true believer that is worth knowing."

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The above is here:

#reply-5283857

Also see this:

#reply-5185218

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p.s.

I have not followed DGIV lately, I see the price around $ 2 or $ 3

Is that after split ? (from the expected... what was it, $12 or $15 ?)

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May be a better suggestion would be to get rid of these dreaded OTC:BB stock threads, and get to real and serious companies.... On second thoughts, no forget that, the source of candidates for Thread Morons would dry up......



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/23/1998 1:03:00 AM
From: lert  Respond to of 50264
 
Dave,

it is serious, and something must be done...i have done my first part of my promise to fight which ever way i know how...i did request the authority to monitor SI and also DGIV stock price manipulations, i.e. the days which buy/sell are over 2:1 and the price went down.

let me know what actions you are taking...i will be joining you if you need support.

best regards,

lert



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/23/1998 3:32:00 AM
From: DON FARLEY  Respond to of 50264
 
Amen.. Great post Dave. Thanks



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/24/1998 12:51:00 AM
From: zax  Respond to of 50264
 
Dave:

Quit crying.

SI just isn't that influential.

You are conspiracy minded, which may in and of itself be delusional.

You picked a dog, and thats that. Now, if somebody, or even a group of people, found your pick to be their pan, thats just life. They will make negative spins on data, just as you will make positive spins on the same data.

I have no involvement in this stock, and know of none of the people whom you speak of. I havn't even read the thread. I have six long positions and one short position on other stocks, none of which you have mentioned.

Set up a private mailing list if you only want to talk in places where the majority of people who agree with you.



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/24/1998 1:43:00 PM
From: MiriamsSon  Respond to of 50264
 
Dave-Without a doubt your post is up there with the Top#10 ever on SI.MiriamsSon



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/25/1998 2:57:00 AM
From: Gerald F Bunch  Respond to of 50264
 
YOU ARE LONGWINDED WITH NO SUBSTANCE THIS IS FROM A LONG TIME LURKER



To: Dave Gore who wrote (18963)7/25/1998 4:01:00 AM
From: AH  Respond to of 50264
 
I don't know the rest of the pack, but certainly MR. FORTHRIGHT is MF.

There is virtually no way to discuss anything with him, even though he claims that he discusses things.

He finds friends that are really scary. For example, he introduced to the GPW thread (Y2K) a guy I called the third Amigo, who claimed that Y2K is a scam. Clinton and the rest of G7 leaders are suckers, and so on. Now, try to remind him of this! He does not respond. He thinks that after a while people will forget what he posted.

I invited him many times to play the market where it should be played. In the GPW case it means VSE. To no avail.

He is a bad person, and a true MF.

PS. After the Philip case, he started looking for friends. Using what? Private communications!

Try to find a lower life!!!