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To: Jane Hafker who wrote (322)	7/24/1998 1:29:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 638

Jane, <<This is easier for me to accept than John Hagee ending a prayer on national TV, a preacher I love and respect and truly go along with every word the man says, except that he was praying and threw in "...my Lord David and ...Jesus Christ." The meaning was clear. Somehow in John's eyes they are almost one in the same. For me to say that, well, I just couldn't and I wouldn't, and I wonder why this is happening? Can you see a reason?>> That is very peculiar. I hope a deceiving spirit does not get hold of John Hagee. Imagine the assault that is directed towards the christians like him who really stand out by the enemy. He needs our prayers to not be deceived and to be strong. I agree that David could be used to make ourselves feel better if we are in sin that controls us. I remember long ago my own sister was feeling her sin like rotteness in her bones and was extremely convicted. I used David aa an example of God's love in spite of grievous sin. She really did respond to that with relief. But we also have to remember that their is no free ride when it comes to sin, we will pay for it in this life. David committed murder among other things and he paid a very high price for it. I am too afraid of the consequences to sin at all where I can control it. Sometimes the devil rubs my face in it saying "Look what you could have" and I do feel the loss. cya, rambling Bob

To: Jane Hafker who wrote (322)	7/24/1998 3:08:00 PM
From: Barnabus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 638

Jane, it's not hard to see why God expecially loved David. Hebrews 11 tells us it is faith that "turns God on." David had faith!!! He indeed was "all man" with plenty of male hormones, but it was the "faith" baby!!! Without faith, it is impossible to please God. How many young ladies or lads could take on an armored Goliath like David did? His brothers didn't believe he could, but they hadn't reckoned what he had done being a common shepherd boy, loving nature, and seeing God in so much of it - daily dialoguing with God brought about tremendous faith in him. If you look at my warts, I've more than my share. I suspect if I were to look at your warts, I'd see the same amount - and so it is with David - BUT He had the faith, baby. Old Man Barney