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To: Don Pueblo who wrote (1)	8/16/1998 5:14:00 PM
From: flickerful	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

in favor.

To: Don Pueblo who wrote (1)	8/16/1998 9:00:00 PM
From: EL KABONG!!!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1542

TLC, Sorry, but I oppose the suggestion. I believe that the rights to free speech far outweigh the right to not be subjected to Emile's twisted thoughts. I posted once to Emile on the moron thread. He replied and I have ignored him since. When I see his name on the post, I simply go <NEXT> <click>. It's really too bad that he is incapable of seeing that he is obsessed with these Zionist thoughts. Unlike you, I do not think Emile is intelligent. I see him more as a pathetic little man who stands ready and willing to blame others for his own personal situation. Unfortunately, he has chosen modern day Israel as his target. KJC

To: Don Pueblo who wrote (1)	8/17/1998 8:42:00 AM
From: George S. Montgomery	Respond to of 1542

THE MERE EXISTENCE OF THIS THREAD MUST BE GIVING EMILE NONSTOP ORGASMS!!! One of its posts, however, said, in effect: Quit counter-jabbing this pest and it will climb back into its murk, under its rock. Why isn't that clear, obvious, and specific advice - capable of being put into immediate (non)action??? This thread's coming-into-being does just the OPPOSITE of what that post advises! So, I repeat: THE MERE EXISTENCE OF THIS THR... gsm

To: Don Pueblo who wrote (1)	8/17/1998 2:49:00 PM
From: NYBellBoy	Read Replies (7) \| Respond to of 1542

Takes Like Chicken -- A NO Vote from NYBellBoy. How dare you, with an obvious condoning sexual reference in your Silicon Investor Name dare to try to get someone kicked off Silicon Investor. I may not agree with Emile, but he has a right to Free Speech. So maybe you should be banned for your obvious sexual reference to oral sex with a woman (Tastes Like Chicken). That doesn't offend me, but you have a right to call yourself what you want as long as it is not blatantly offensive. I'm sure some of the women will be offended now they know who they are supporting. :( BellBoy

To: Don Pueblo who wrote (1)	8/17/1998 7:36:00 PM
From: Tom_	Respond to of 1542

No. Let him talk... All the posts you cited from him were in threads like "Ask God" and "Let's Talk About Our Feelings" and "The 2d Amendment--The Facts." What on earth do you expect in such "coffee shops"? I personally would not appreciate seeing his viewpoints cluttering up the Peoplesoft thread; but I trust that SI will make Peoplesoft safe for its people. The problem with the sanction you propose, as I see it, is that--to protect us all from such sanctions--it would be nice to be told beforehand what not to do: a precise definition of what exactly is "objectionable." SI's helpful Terms of Use define sanctionable offenses as being "or otherwise objectionable." I myself define "objectionable" as posts and posters I don't agree with. But I grind my teeth and move on, and sometimes even learn things. What a pity, if everyone were like me. JMO.

To: Don Pueblo who wrote (1)	8/17/1998 8:21:00 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1542

At the risk of repeating things that others may have said: The first amendment is a work of genius precisely because it's often so difficult to figure out. It's so vague. Vague often is good. I think we've got no problems kicking this guy out if that's what we want. I subscribe to a newspaper, are they violating my rights by refusing to publish my letters? Tricky business here though, especially if you're paying this site for the privilege of posting/being published. Still, setting up a website with rules about what it's owner will or will not publish itself is an exercise in free speech, no? If I set up a site only about dovetail joints and refuse to publish anything posted that strays from that subject, too bad? Get your own website? Still, while it works, I find this argument unsatisfying. I tend to favor the bully on the bus strategy. You're goaded by the bully who wins only if you get upset. So ignore him, he'll go away. This of course rarely works? Might it in this case? Maybe. Something to help: One of the problems with this guy is that he won't listen to reason -- no matter what you say he's going to think and believe what he wants. A little philosophy to the rescue: If you hold a statement to be true no matter what, that statement automatically means nothing. A belief has meaning, is valuable, is saying something if and only if it is possible that it could be wrong. And so if you're not willing to admit the possibility of error and explain, specifically, what could count as evidence against that belief, that belief literally makes no difference and no sense. It's a wind egg. Poet