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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (3292)	9/16/1998 10:22:00 PM
From: dougjn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Nixon's crime was not only a crime by a very HIGH Misdemeanor. Meaning, to have engaged in a conspiracy to subvert the election process by conducting illegal espionage on the other party's campaign strategy, and to have used misused major instrumentalities of government, including not only a substantial portion of his White House staff, quite explicitly and covertly, but also the FBI, IRS, and CIA to illegally damage his enemies, were very High Crimes and very High Misdemeanors (misuses of office) indeed. Very far up there. The only delay on axing Nixon was definite proof that he was involved, rather than merely an ever widening of his supposedly waywardly acting lieutenants. Once that proof was in, he resigned within days. There might have been a unanimous Senate vote. This is a hugely different level of gravity. Doug

To: Bill who wrote (3292)	9/17/1998 12:58:00 AM
From: j g cordes	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

First Mr. Bill, you've been evasive and condescending to most everyone so don't start your games with me. My name isn't hypothetical, show a little respect if you want some. As to your question: ".. If Nixon knew about the break-in and admitted it after enough evidence existed, would you vote to impeach?" Your question isn't logical the way you've phrased it, but I do understand what you're trying to ask. I'll assume you mean to ask ".. and admitted it after enough evidence was presented, would you vote to impeach?" Yes I probably would have voted to impeach Nixon as his intent was clearly to directly cause harm to our system of government through political sabotage. That is a clear condition for impeachment. If you are lamely going to draw a parallel to Clinton privately having sex with Lewinsky and intentionally lying to the Grand Jury and everyone else even when "enough evidence" has been presented to prove him wrong... its similar in logic but worlds apart in intent. Clinton and Lewinsky's acts were against themselves and against their respective families. There was no planning to harm the nation or to cause harm to our system of government. Every thing they have done that is wrong, has grown from their efforts to avoid public and legal discovery of their private affair. Let me ask you a difficult question which you are free to ignore. Have you been immoral, have you lied Bill? Have you ever deceived your friends? Have you ever denied to a police officer that you were speeding or gone through a stop sign? Have you cheated on your wife, or told even white lies to your children? I'll stop right here... if you are a normal citizen you felt some outrage that I was asking you these very private questions in a public place. Multiply that feeling of trespass on your privacy a thousand fold. When you become a civil servant you don't give up your rights as a citizen. As citizens, we haven't yet given up our rights to tolerate private behavior, even at the highest levels, even when it stinks. That's why motels have door and why confessionals have curtains behind which secrets are whispered in strict confidence.