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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (32780)9/24/1998 2:27:00 PM
From: kahunabear  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
I guess we should all take comfort in knowing our banks and brokerages help fund highly speculative hedge funds with our capital. So much for the idea of a rock solid U.S. financial system. <g>

WS



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (32780)9/24/1998 2:30:00 PM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Interesting, irrelevant or other -- in your opinion and why?

marketgauge.com



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (32780)9/24/1998 3:29:00 PM
From: kahunabear  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
I know your not a big fan of HOT. One of the things I noticed reading their 10-K is that they along with a few others REITs have entered into forward equity contracts.

The way I understand these contracts they get cash for issuing shares to a broker or bank (another creative vehicle for these guys). The catch is that the number of shares is adjusted if the stock rises or falls. When HOT entered into these agreements they seemed to be betting their stock would go up and they would get shares back. Unfortunately, the stock has gone down requiring more shares to pay back the loan. This looks dilutive to me. They can also settle the agreement by paying cash for the shares issued at the much higher price. That is what they did in this example.

Notice in the following press release that they paid $59.50 per share (130 mil./2.1 mil shares) for stock that is trading around $33.50. Not good.

biz.yahoo.com

They try to put a positive spin on it, but they neglect doing the math to let us know what they are paying for the shares.

I may be misinterpreting this stuff, but it looks dangerous to me.

WS



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (32780)9/24/1998 3:31:00 PM
From: tom r. phillips  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Michael -- what are the "rebates" you referred to in the discussion a while back about paired trades of CEFs, etc.?

Message 5625514

thanks, tom phillips



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (32780)9/24/1998 3:50:00 PM
From: Marty Rubin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Michael, if an IPO (i.e. EBAY) is about to open way above its target price, why can they raise the range ($16-$18, opened at $53.5. At 46 1/8 as of 15:50:12) more? TIA, Marty