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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Zoltan! who wrote (9409)	10/14/1998 9:05:00 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

History lesson for the class: WSJ Notable and Quotable Theodore B. Olson, former counsel to President Reagan, writing in The Washington Times, Oct. 12, on comparisons between Whitewater and Iran-contra: For the record, the Iran-Contra comparison is a fraud. Within weeks after the Iran-Contra controversy emerged, President Reagan created a bipartisan commission (including a former Democratic candidate for president) to investigate; called for the immediate appointment of an independent counsel; waived executive privilege; and instructed his aides, including White House lawyers, to cooperate fully with all investigations including the joint congressional investigation. He answered written questions under oath, he made portions of his diaries available to the independent counsel, and he gave direct testimony under oath on two separate occasions. After his two-day videotaped deposition, he joined in the application to make the videotape available in full to the American people. And two federal judges and the independent counsel went out of their way to praise the "extraordinary" level of President Reagan's cooperation with the various investigations. After a seven-year investigation, the independent counsel found no crimes by President Reagan. Zero.

To: Zoltan! who wrote (9409)	10/14/1998 2:34:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

>>> Your rant is riddled with errors, such as blaming a Rep Senate for what a Dem Senate and House did. Sorry, but the Republicans were in charge of the Senate by the time the trials rolled around, toward the end of the Reagan-Bush Administration. >>> Reagan is held in such esteem in the world because he was so successful and effective as President. He is now rated by historians as one of three great American Presidents of this century along with the two Roosevelts.<<< By who? The losers at the Cato Institute? The folks overseas that I talk to thought he was a senile cowboy when he was in office, and while the cowboy part was an affectation of his, the Alzheimers everyone now knows about. Alzheimers is now known to have symptoms even in the forties and fifties in age. It sometimes manifests first as over-organization, with rigid ideas about how things work coming to the fore, for instance. Other symptoms include rigid schedules and making lots of lists, as the ability to learn and deal flexibly disappears. People start to confuse imaginary episodes and experiences like movies with real events, as the memory slowly fades. Friends have to make more and more excuses for noticeable lapses like those seen in Reagan even in his earlier, unsuccessful primary campaign after he was governor in California. Sometimes these symptoms are seen as drive, organization, or duplicitousness, but are actually the sad signs of a man trying to hang on. It's more than possible that Reagan might have recognized this himself and stepped aside, if he hadn't become the meal ticket for so many nutty ideologues who pushed him up front, and then manipulated him. >>> In contrast, Clinton is a total failure at everything but failure. He said he would lower crime, lower unemployment, and create a vibrant economy. Which he has done. He wanted to keep us out of war, especially any TV show wars on peasants like Panama and Granada, and he has. All in the teeth of great opposition. He will be remembered well in a hundred years, while the republican mediocrities like Bush, Buchanan, and Gingritch will be mostly forgotten, except for their errors. Maybe you better light up another one - I think you're running out of good ideas :-) Cheers, Chaz