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To: Machaon who wrote (1474)	11/1/1998 1:18:00 PM
From: Arthur Radley	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1542

Bob, You realize that we are wasting our time "trying" to debate with these two men of wisdom....men of hate....and men of fear. Did I say men of hate. If I didn't, I meant to say men of hate. I have a young nephew, that drew the short straw with his birth characteristics...effeminate voice and all the other traits. He had these traits at an age well before he had ever heard what a homosexual was. Ridiculed and shunned by many(especially the hatemongers), I proud to say he is my nephew and I can truly say, that his Mother and Father love him dearly. He has grown up to be a fine young man, but sadly because of his luck of the draw(we might say God's handy work),he will never have the opportunities that I have had in a career, especially since he will have to always worry about the hatemongers like Chris and Dan. And to think that the mantra from Chris and Dan is that "God created all men equal". Yes, if they aren't born with dark skin, homosexual traits, Jewish, and the list goes on and on. A loving God, but he sure puts a lot of weigh on the moment and place you are born. You damn sure can't place the blame on the DEVIL for whom you were born, but he gets the blame for all the consequences.

To: Machaon who wrote (1474)	11/1/1998 2:17:00 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

Sexual activity was not on the list of things for Jesus to do. Regardless of the actions of sick willie, sex is not the center of our existence. You seem to forget that Jesus led the only Perfect life. And yes, Christ's Disciples, had prejudices of the day. They felt it was wrong to associate with Samaritans, plain and simple. Where else, other than the Samarian woman, did the Disciples show disdain with whom Jesus was associating? You seem to see yourself as a Biblical scholar, so tell me about other associations of Jesus with less than respectable (in man's eyes) people. There are some. See if you can cast those instances in some sort of perverted way. alan w

To: Machaon who wrote (1474)	11/28/1999 6:11:00 AM
From: Shawn Donahue	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1542

Robert Barry, I am mainly on SI for researching undervalued stocks, but since you clearly are mistating the truth about what the Holy Bible really states... and are clearly trying to corrupt people with lies, mistatements and desception about what Jesus really said and did, I will make the time to look up the TRUTH!!! I am a practicing Catholic, and I believe It's up to all Christians to make sure that the truth of what the Holy Bible really states (and can and should be easily confirmed by everyone making the time to read it for themselves! :)is told, and not allow some who clearly are trying to distort the truth in order to confuse others about what Jesus really said and did, and then somehow convince them that some- thing that is clearly identified as sin (homo- sexual behavior) in the Holy Bible is no longer a sin; when it always has been (in Sodom, etc...)and will be...because the Holy Bible is the word of God and that's where I look for the truth. Period! Not only do you misquote verses in the Holy Bible, by changing words, leaving out verses which add to the context, but you also try and infer that Jesus may have done sinful acts...your agenda is loud and clear :( <<Yeh, but, she had told Jesus that she was from Samaria. She didn't tell the disciples where she came from.>> If anyone makes the time to read all of John 4, then they will see that you are trying to distort the truth by not telling that Jesus already knew the woman was a Samaritan before being told by her(John 4:7), and that the disciples also knew the woman was a Samaritan, and that they were in the Samaritan city of Sy'-char ( John 4:5)... Even though other Jews traditionally had "no dealings with the Samaritans" (John 4:9), Jesus spoke with her and asked her for a drink of water and then spent two days with the Samaritans! <<Besides that, it didn't say that the disciples marvelled that he was talking with a Samarian woman. It just said "a woman".>> John 4:27 clearly shows "the woman"; not "a" woman! In fact, here is what it states: "And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest though with her? Shawn PS: The more I see SI invaded by people who spend all their time mistating the Holy Bible and trying to convince others that the truth and rules from God have somehow changed, gives me more and more reason to make the time to pick up the Holy Bible and read the truth for myself! :) PSS: It also gives more reason to earn enough money to pay for my children to go to a Parochial or Christian school,where they at least have a chance to hear the TRUTH- as public schools are probably being overun by atheists like yourself!:(