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To: H-Man who wrote (9220)11/7/1998 4:59:00 PM
From: TokyoMex  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 119973
 
Great post ,,

Paper trading ..

I strongly recommend for those starting out ,, indeed do a paper trade,,

It is better to trade on paper and watch only one stock that you know best ,,

Watch it like a biologist watching an ant family all day ,, for a month ,, we are talking about serious money here,, not gambling ,,

Watch it like a little league coach ,, waching kids ,, at the trials ,, watch it like you would watch Jordan ,, on the court,,

See how it behaves,, how it opens , compare to other stocks ,, when is the weakness ,,

You can make a living trading same stock over and over all day long ,, for 1/4 here 1/2 there ,, on 1,000 shares ,, at 250 to 500 dolars a pop ,, if you do it 5 times win 3 lose 2 ,, you are coming out with 500 to 1,000 bucks a day ...

So hypothetically ,, say with ,, 5000 dollars,, with margin at 10,000 dollars ,, find a fast moving stock with volume - liquidity ,,(must)
on 1,000 shares of 10 dollar stock ,, look for that 1/4 - 1/2 point ,, here ,,, you have a limited risk ,,

I see too many fools spend more time on studying ,, new streo or TV before they buying then on the stocks that they trade or invest in ,,

Or even at a magazine stand ,, they browse free for hours ,, before paying that 2.99 ,,,

;-)



To: H-Man who wrote (9220)11/7/1998 5:25:00 PM
From: Kevin McKenzie  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 119973
 
Great post H-man! I think most of what you warned about playing momentum stocks happened to me Friday with GERN.

I got lousy partial fills on market orders.

I couldn't sell the shares because my buys had not been confirmed.

The stock reversed so quickly that it was very difficult to buy/sell near the pivot point (even when I placed the order at the correct price.)

Since we're all offering advice this weekend; I have a couple tidbits for novices:

When you see a recommendation from someone on any thread (including this one) remember that the experienced trader who is making the recommendation will already have his/her escape planned However, the person who makes the recommendation will rarely make a follow-up post if his/her hunch was wrong.

For example, Friday afternoon, I posted that GERN could run up from 19. I bought it at 18 7/8. When it subsequently tested 19 1/16 and failed, I knew it was time to get out, and I acted immediately and decisively. I probably should have posted a reversal warning, however, I was busy getting my ass out of the trade; by the time I posted the warning, it would have been too late -- it would have been better to ride the dip and exit on the next run.

In short, don't get in if you don't know how to get out.

Sorry if I'm posting remedial advice to advanced traders (but hey, it's Saturday, the markets are closed and I'm bored)



To: H-Man who wrote (9220)11/7/1998 5:40:00 PM
From: freelyhovering  Respond to of 119973
 
H-Man--As my son would say "way cool post". Thanks. Myron



To: H-Man who wrote (9220)11/7/1998 6:03:00 PM
From: GT  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 119973
 
H-Man - great post - thought I was the only one hyper-ventilating ! About MB Trading - do you really think those real tick III type systems give you superior fills all the time ? I'm really curious about that. Datek is useless because as daytraders we are often buying surges at the close for the morning pop - but at datek you CAN NOT get a trade off in the am - can drive you mad to watch the stock you correctly picked slowly drop back and you still aren't filled. My market sell order on GERN took 20 minutes at Datek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know about preferencing etc. - but since the only MANDATORY orders are soes - but they may have long wait lines - are these systems really all they say they are ? It's starting to resemble a search for the holy grail - my quest to find an execution system that will get me in/out at the market in an instant - every single time. Any ideas ? Thanks - Gorcon



To: H-Man who wrote (9220)11/7/1998 11:25:00 PM
From: bdog  Respond to of 119973
 
H-Man,

Nice. So is the post on stop loss. Nice.

thanks,
bdog



To: H-Man who wrote (9220)11/8/1998 2:07:00 PM
From: Doug T.  Respond to of 119973
 
H-Man,
Great post about paper trading. If I could add a few thoughts that has helped me as a newbie (6 months experience) and still learning.Correct me if I'm wrong!
If your broker is Slowtrade discount broker wait 3 min's, then see if it's within your limit.
I created a notebook to follow other traders. At the top of each page write down each name ex. TM, Jane J, Tim Luke, Nasdbull. Write down each trade they post. We follow to learn.
Never jump blindly into a trade. Keep Yahoo up on your screen with a five day chart. Take one min. to look at the company, read the latest PR. You have time to enter the trade. Never chase it.
If you don't know ask! Post questions to the thread or send a PM after the market closes if possible.
Level II is a must. For myself a simple dynamic time and sale chart is very easy to read and will show which direction the momentum is going.
If you have problems at work or home stop trading! If your ISP is slow or your disconnected often stop trading! If you make a bad trade stop and think about what went wrong.
This has to be the most enjoyable hobby I've ever found.
Good Luck to all,
Doug