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To: jhild who wrote (19833)	12/4/1998 6:57:00 PM
From: Valkyrie	Read Replies (8) \| Respond to of 43774

no sir...i am 0 for 2...and i guess i should just give up...you will not see the terrible effect you have...it has to be intentional...this kind of consistancy can not be mistaken as arbitrary... jhild, if it came only from me, i could see that you could reasonably think there is a personality conflict, but it does not come only from me...it comes from every other living person on this board...has that not occured to you yet... for weeks and weeks and weeks, here and on ragingbull i have tried to reason with you and rosario...i have begged and begged for a decent working relationship on this board...it will not happen...lord knows how many times i have sent pm messages to rosario trying to build a relationship of trust between he and myself...why...i will tell you...two reasons...even if i do not agree with his specific method of operation, i know that i can learn things from him about some things...or at least hear his point of view...this desire of mine is based on objectivity...you see, it is not always he who starts the fight...secondly, i thought that at last, last weekend, i had gained enough respect from him that i might somehow be able to reach out to him and ask him to please be a little more tolerant of peoples attitude toward him, and maybe i hoped things would become more civil here on this board...i gave him my telephone number, begged him to telephone me...he initially said that he would, but demanded that i itemize what i wished to talk with him about "in print"...so, i did...he laughed in my face...i accomplished absolutely nothing...but i did try... things are more vicious now than they ever have been...it is so sad...so many people, working together...working hard on something they believe in...trusting each other...helping each other out...to be destroyed daily by you and he... and you have hardly been heard from for two weeks...then today, of all days, with two press releases out, everybody very happy about them...and today you have to show up and ruin it for everybody...laugh in their faces and say things you know good and well are not true...make everything you can think of sound as bad as you possibly can...and for what...dont tell me or anybody else that you are just trying to help out by pointing out a few things that dont seem exactly right...you know where the estate is...you know the elevation...things of this nature...you know it and so does he...rosario takes barbaras post and twists it around immediately about a date for cripes sake...he is not stupid...he knows what she said...he understands her meanings...he just wants to make an issue of nothing... so you call me names...donald duck...he called me mr. self righteous...if only you knew me...either of you...you would know that i am a humble man...i would do anything in my power to help anyone, just because i can... it is the way i live my life and the way i show my love for my fellow man...but i despise a bully...especially one who is so anxious to hurt others when they are defenseless to prevent it...if i was to see your daughter being brutalized on the street, i would stop it or die... i have tried to do the same thing here...not for me, but for the other people...they matter to me a great deal...and they all know it...but none of them matter to you two at all...funny thing is, they ask either of you for so little...they dont demand that you agree with them...they dont demand that you believe as they do, or believe what the company says over the phone...they can think for themselves...they can see that a lot of the things you two say need addressing...they are not stupid...what they do not like is the disrespect and the non-stop harrassment...they dont like the insults and the manipulation...none of them do... you say i judge you...i dont have to judge you...your actions judge you...but i do tell you straight to you face...i am not afraid of your ridicule...were you to change and begin to help, rather than to tear down, i would probably be the first to forgive you...ill prove it to you by my own actions...go back and read every post between me and rosario from last weekend through tuesday...i thought i was finally getting somewhere...but he played me for a sucker...i cannot count the p.m.'s i got from well meaning people, telling me that was how it would turn out...i didnt want to believe them...i wanted to believe that i was finally getting somewhere with him...well...they were right...i dont care about being wrong...at least i tried...