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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Thomas L Nielsen who wrote (9263)12/11/1998 6:12:00 PM
From: Zoltan!  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 13994
 
>>but am merely pointing out that the majority of the public want a stop to
the proceedings.


A majority of the American public want school prayer, income tax cuts and for Clinton to resign if he lied before a grand jury, which most agree that he did.

The media is using polls of an uniformed public to influence a debate in which public opinion matters far less than considered judgment. Most of the uninformed public thinks inpeachment means removal, which it does not.

As for what Congress should do, try reading "Profiles in Courage", a book that was written by Ted Sorensen and for which JFK accepted an unearned but Daddy-bought Pulitzer.

A vast majority Americans say they do not trust Clinton and think he is a liar. He cannot lead. If he had any grace, any honor, he would just go away. But then he would no longer be a sociopath.



To: Thomas L Nielsen who wrote (9263)12/11/1998 9:29:00 PM
From: Tommaso  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13994
 
There are a certain number of quarrelsome misfits who are getting a lot of pleasure out of these proceedings in Washington.

If the numbers favored them (that is, if 65% of the public wanted to continue with impeachment proceedings), they would righteously cite the rights of th majority. Faced with the fact that they are in the minority, they have to fall back on the contention of absolute righteousness independent of the number of votes involved.

I do wish such people would go back to their little cubicles and play games with themselves instead of plaguing everyone with their self-important posturings. They will never be elected to anything, and have few friends. Their only source of self-importance is to make irritants out of themselves.

Strident and righteous self-importance makes few friends.




To: Thomas L Nielsen who wrote (9263)12/13/1998 8:42:00 PM
From: Liatris Spicata  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13994
 
Thomas-

I notice you did not bother to answer the questions that I posed to you. Moreover, I am not aware that Sleazebag Bill has admitted to the serious charges with which the House Judiciary Committee has charged him. He and his defenders are trying to palm all this off as "merely a sex scandal", when people like me believe they can no longer trust a damn word he says [OK, I'll admit it, I never believed a word he said when he was my governor] and that he may have obstructed justice. By saying, "shameful acts carried out and admitted by the president" you seem to suggest that he has admitted to the shameful, dishonest, illegal conduct with which he has been charged. That's not the case: he's only admitted- begrudgingly, belatedly, and indirectly- to sexual impropriety with "that woman, Miss Lewinsky". To suggest that is all there is too this case is to trivialize to the point of mindless absurdity the serious charges which are now before the House.

You are undeniably correct that some Representatives may be placing their political careers on the line with their vote concerning impeaching Clinton. When a serious, constitutionally mandated responsibility such as the current impeachment proceedings is before the House I expect a legislator to place justice and the interests of the nation before his or her own political future, although I have little confidence that that actually is the case with all Representatives.

Larry