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To: t2 who wrote (13142)12/11/1998 9:25:00 PM
From: Tim Luke  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 74651
 
Friday December 11, 8:19 pm Eastern Time
Oracle, Sun Micro to announce new type of computer
By Duncan Martell

PALO ALTO, Calif., Dec 11 (Reuters) - Oracle Corp. and Sun Microsystems Inc., in a direct assault on their mutual archrival Microsoft Corp., will announce on Monday they will work together on a new type of computer that does not require an operating system, analysts and industry sources said.

With Microsoft, the world's largest software company, now mired in its antitrust case with government regulators, its competitors -- Sun, Oracle, America Online Inc. and others -- are becoming more emboldened to attack Microsoft more directly.

This latest assault from Sun and Oracle -- if their initiative bears fruit -- could obviate the need for the software giant's Windows NT operating system, designed for heavy-duty computing. NT competes primarily with Sun's own brand of the Unix operating system called Solaris and Hewlett-Packard Co.'s, called HP-UX.

''What Oracle and Sun are doing here is cutting out Microsoft,'' said Rob Enderle, an analyst with market research firm Giga Information Group. ''That would get them both excited and is reasonably compelling.''

On top of that, Enderle said, a recent survey conducted by his firm showed that dissatisfaction with Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft was running high among its corporate customers.

''Dissatisfaction is extremely high with Microsoft, much higher than with anyone else,'' Enderle said. ''It looks like the market might respond very favorably to this.''

Officials for Sun and Oracle declined to comment. A telephone conference call is scheduled for 10 a.m. Pacific time Monday (1300 EST, 1800 GMT) with Oracle Chief Executive Larry Ellison and Sun Chief Executive Scott McNealy.

When the products would be available was not clear.

Ellison, in a keynote address in November at the mammoth Comdex computer trade show in Las Vegas, outlined his plans to bundle Oracle's latest Internet friendly database, 8i, on computers that would bypass the need for Windows NT and any other operating system.

He said then Oracle would ship products by March, adding that his company was already in discussions with Sun, Hewlett Packard, Compaq Computer Corp. and Dell Computer Corp. about supplying the hardware for the deal.

Oracle's database now runs on top of Sun's operating system, NT and others. Although there will be no operating system, the computers and Oracle's software would still requires a ''microkernel,'' essentially a tiny piece of software to help Oracle's database software ''talk to'' the hardware.

Ellison did not specify what type of kernel the company would select, but candidates include kernels from operating systems software such as Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, System 10 from Apple Computer Inc., FreeBSD and NetBSD.

Enderle said Oracle would most likely pick Sun's kernel, because it already has experience working with it and it is more powerful and easier to make it work in computers with multiple microprocessors, the brains of the devices.

''Sun and Oracle have united to say you don't need Bill Gates and Microsoft,'' said David Wu, an analyst with ABN Amro Chicago Corp. in San Francisco. ''You don't need more than a microkernel'' to run Oracle's database.

Oracle shares rose $2.06 to $37.25 on the Nasdaq, following stronger-than-expected fiscal second-quarter earnings announced Thursday. Sun shares rose $4.38 to $77.38.

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To: t2 who wrote (13142)12/11/1998 10:00:00 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Same old battle, tech2000, The IS managers in the companies want to have an alternative, but the Suits in corporate love windows, and will keep them with Gates.



To: t2 who wrote (13142)12/11/1998 11:31:00 PM
From: mojave  Respond to of 74651
 
Polls didn't help Billy Bob out. Face it, if the gov. wants to do something it is all powerful. If it wants to bring MSFT down, down she'll go. I bet SAP will have a bigger market cap in 10 years! Prove me wrong, I dare you!



To: t2 who wrote (13142)12/12/1998 3:04:00 PM
From: Andy Thomas  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74651
 
It will be interesting to see what MSFT comes up with for the "home user" version of Windows 2000.

FWIW
Andy