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To: jhild who wrote (20708)	12/15/1998 11:43:00 AM
From: Siber	Respond to of 43774

salmon on toast points Sacriledge!! Do that here in the Pacific Northwest and you'd be drummed outta town <grin>.

To: jhild who wrote (20708)	12/15/1998 11:56:00 AM
From: Roger Bodine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 43774

jhild, wait a minute please. It looks like an over statement on your part: < "You all seem so eager to blame critics of the company, when it is the company itself that is responsible for their current position. They are the ones not executing. They are the ones with the excuses. They are the ones not filing. They are the ones with the ever changing business plan. Small beginnings, a lot of phone talk, salmon on toast points, no reporting, no results." > Of course the company is responsible for their current position. They are the ones that ARE executing. Have you not read their accomplishments. You seem to read with tainted glasses, as usual. They will file when appropriate, which may not coincide with your needs. Excuses you say, goals obtained they state. How can you say 'ever changing business plan'? Have you ever seen their Business Plan? More than likely, it is being fulfilled and expanded as opportunities arise. If you want salmon on Your toast, ask Donald to mail you a catch. I will 'toast' John for his accomplishments. Now here we have the same set of circumstances we are both viewing. Your view appears to be Always attack, criticize, demean, discount. So to each his own. I do not consider your viewpoint realistic. Roger

To: jhild who wrote (20708)	12/15/1998 12:44:00 PM
From: J T	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 43774

You all seem so eager to blame critics of the company, when it is the company itself that is responsible for their current position. They are the ones not executing. In Your OPINION (and that is all it is) the company is not performing! You post what 30-40 times a week the same OLD story! What the REAL STORY is that you want a write up like Janice got and you THINK this is the stock that will get it for you! JEALOUSY is Wicked Thing jhild, it can make you such a BITTER person! Let's don't get to talking about idiots. But didn't you just DEFEND one with this post? In my opinion of coarse! PEACE JT

To: jhild who wrote (20708)	12/16/1998 6:20:00 AM
From: ISOMAN	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 43774

What is your take on this: Information on Investors Research Institure: SEAL OF BEST PRACTICES - AN INTRODUCTION Principles: 'Disclosure', 'Scrutiny' and 'Accessibility' The 'Seal of Best Practices in Investor Relations' program has evolved since September, 1996, under the auspices of a Board of Directors answering to a membership primarily comprising individual investors, when the non-profit Investors Research Institute, Inc. was established to develop and implement a program to insure that all classes of investors may have timely access to information about public companies equal to that previously available only to Wall Street professionals. A growing number of Street professionals have joined or endorsed the missions of IRI because they believe not only in the inherent fairness of IRI's standards, but also that if individual investors have a higher level of comfort in the marketplace, a higher level of capital will flow to the small- and mid-capitalization marketplaces, creating jobs, opportunities and economic strength. Any sized public company may voluntarily pledge, through its corporate officers, to uphold the principles that are at the foundation of the Institute's 'Seal' program. THREE PRINCIPLES To achieve its missions, and on behalf of its individual investor members, IRI has established task forces and programs built around a tripartite grouping of "Best Practices" principles under which public companies may qualify to receive a "Seal of Best Practices in Investor Relations" upon agreeing to adhere to its set of guidelines. A public company may join IRI and display the general Corporate Member Seal by agreeing to these principles. A company may achieve a special, or "Elite", status by reporting it has satisfactorily achieved of all of the milestones signifying superior investor relations in each of the following categories: "DISCLOSURE", "SCRUTINY" and "ACCESSIBILITY". ELITE SEAL OF BEST PRACTICES - SPECIFIC MILESTONES CHECKLIST Investors can ask companies you follow: "Where's Your Seal?" 'Elite': achieve each of the following within year of enrollment. Dates and documentation should be attached to the IRI 'Report Form' verifying the following: SCRUTINY The principles of "scrutiny" are achieved through: __ A. ANALYST COVERAGE. __ 1. Analyst coverage must be professional and independent. __ 2. Coverage must be no less than quarterly, following each earnings release. __ 3. Analyst must be qualified by experience and/or professional training in the CFA program. __ 4. Analyst may not be paid by company, directly or indirectly. __ 5. Public Analysis & Review (PAR) or comparable enrollment is acceptable for qualification. __ 6. The reports should be given the widest possible distribution. __ 7. Report summaries must be simultaneously released to all classes of Investors. __ 8. Full text of analyst report(s) should be accessible on the world wide web. ACCESSIBILITY The principles of "accessibility" are achieved through: __ B. CONFERENCE CALLS. __ 1. At least one conference call must be scheduled annually. __ 2. All conference calls must be pre-announced to all classes of investors. __ 3. All calls must be equally accessible to individual investors, minimally on "listen" mode. __ 4. At least one conference call annually must accept questions from individual investors. __ 5. "Listen" mode may be achieved via a simultaneous audio or video webcast. __ 6. Transcripts of conference calls should be posted on the world wide web. __ C. INVESTOR PRESENTATIONS. __ 1. At least one annually must be before an audience which includes individual investors. __ 2. All presentations should be pre-announced, via a generally-distributed press release. __ 3. The qualifying presentation must be globally available via simultaneous audio or video webcast. __ 4. The audio or video should be archived and available on a website for at least 90-days. __ 5. The archival should include a text transcript linked to or posted with the webcast. DISCLOSURE The principles of "disclosure" are achieved through: __ D. CORPORATE INFORMATION. __ 1. Companies must strive to achieve timely issuance of corporate reports. __ 2. A corporate profile must be available via Market Guide, Standard & Poor's, Hoovers, or other comparable agency, or prepared by the company in comparable format and posted on a website. __3. Companies which are not "fully reporting" as defined by regulation, to receive the 'Seal', however, must make public comparable quarterly financial information and disclosures required by such filings. __ E. PRESS RELEASES. __ 1. Press releases must be given the widest distribution, insuring equal access to individual investors. __ 2. Timing of press releases must not favor professional traders with after-hours trading access. __ 3. Pre-market releases are encouraged to be posted and/or issued after 6 p.m. ET on the previous trading day to provide individual investors with adequate opportunity to perform personal diligence. __ F. DILUTIVE EVENTS ANNOUNCEMENTS. __ 1. Any change in the number of shares issued or made available in the course of a financing must be announced at the time of the dilutive event. __ 2. Disclosure regarding insider buying or selling must be made at the time of the event. __ G. WEBSITE DESIGN. __ 1. Timely electronic posting of new corporate materials must be achieved. __ 2. A separate website, or separate section for investor information must be available. __ 3. A minimum of three (3) years of press releases must be archived. __ 4. Easy contact points for investors to speak with company representatives must be included. __ 5. The site should contain, or link to all professional commentary about the company, pro and con. __ 6. The site should contain, or link to all information about the company. IRI standards are voluntary; IRI has no independent means to verify the accuracy of information provided bo it by the companies, but invites members of the organization and the general public to send electronic e-mail to iri@investorsresearch.org questioning any company's compliance with its verified reports. IRI sponsors a number of Task Forces with oversight into each of these standards. The standards are thus subject to change at any time. All members of IRI are eligible to serve on the 'Task Force on Best Practices in Investor Relations' as well as its subpanels, or to effect the standards by other means consistent with the IRI by-laws. for membership information, write iri@investorsresearch.org.