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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: dfloydr who wrote (9614)12/19/1998 4:13:00 PM
From: Jack Be Quick  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13994
 
>>I have lived in parts of the world where the fabric of
law is thin, tattered and torn.<<

Interesting points D. Floyd. I'm curious though, in these bad places that you mention, are there no courts, judges and prosecutors? Do they openly eschew the rule of law in such places, preferring not even to hold any formal legal proceedings? I'd been under the impression, perhaps mistaken, that you could always get a trial in such places and that the rule of law there was absolute, although the protections for defendants few. It is interesting to me to hear that the way to keep legal systems honest and the populace free from tyranny is to demand a higher degree of subservience to the law from those whom the law accuses. But maybe that's the way it works.



To: dfloydr who wrote (9614)12/21/1998 8:47:00 AM
From: j g cordes  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13994
 
The Congo.. is that your standard of comparisson for Democrats? Now you're getting weird. Its not Republicans vs Democrat, its especially not one side winning with slogans about rule of law or morals.

What's kept America strong over so many years is the often clumsy process of consensus. That's difficult to understand when issues and side taking raises everyone's boiling point.

Consensus is structurally derived from having separation of powers, so that no one stays on top too long. The founders rightly judged that power corrupts no matter which side is in power, no matter the level of righteousness or deceit. The evolution of this republic has been to periodically deconstruct and reconstruct itself, only to deconstruct again while maintaining order.

Little party quips like the Dems do this, or the Reps do that litter the history of American politics like betting stubs at a race track.