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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: miraje who wrote (22854)	12/19/1998 5:47:00 PM
From: The Street	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

I am glad the GOP is making idiots of themselves. And I am glad that Democrats are too. Actually, it is VERY good for my Party....

To: miraje who wrote (22854)	12/19/1998 5:58:00 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

>>Who do you think the country is going to punish over being put through this?<< It's interesting that you think the country will "punish" anyone. The fact is that Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton alone has it within his power to prevent the country from "being put through this", but he won't put the country before his personal desires and you want to know why? Because of all the people who could potentially "be punished" he won't be. He's a lame duck, 2nd term President, so he has absolutely nothing to lose politically by trying to run out the clock. He has zero credibility with the Congressional leadership and consequently I wouldn't be expecting anything significant to come out of his remaining tenure (whatever that will be). But maybe that's his goal, to stay in office knowing full well that little will be accomplished so that he can hand the Dems an issue for the 2000 election. what a statesman, huh? Run against the " do nothing" congress....I just hope the Republicans don't fall into that trap and send up more and more legislation that he vetoes, maybe eventually the voters will understand what's happening and wise up. bp

To: miraje who wrote (22854)	12/19/1998 6:32:00 PM
From: jimpit	Respond to of 67261

<...What happened to the Contract with America, much of which I firmly believed in and hoped would be enacted and even expanded upon?...> James, The way I remember it is that The Reps accomplished most of the Contract with America. Then Slick co-opted the remainder in his '96 run for president... and won, of course. jim

To: miraje who wrote (22854)	12/19/1998 7:31:00 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

<<What happened to the Contract with America, much of which I firmly believed in and hoped would be enacted and even expanded upon? >> Bravo! <<reverse the course of prior decades of ever increasing, tired Democratic quasi-socialist nannyism.>> Oh yes please sir! <<Does "getting" Clinton really matter to you more than seeing your agenda enacted? >> Again, I really believe the acts he committed against another citizen, over something the likes of which he'd been previously forgiven- then elected in spite of- is truly a horrible thing. He simply MUST put the citizen he faces in court above his own petty worries of being caught fulfilling his own petty(substantial) desires. The Republican base is with the leadership. The base is passionate over this one. Republicans would lose a lot to the likes of Libertarians if they took your advice, I think. :-) And by doggie there ARE plenty of Democrats, especially older ones, who are all for this impeachment too. They are extremely offended by Clinton and Dem. Reps. defending him as they are. The Republicans keep their base, and gather a few sympathetic Democrats. If they take your course, they lose their base, and gain a very few Republicans who oppose impeachment strongly. Hmmm...they might gain swing voters to replace their base? Naw, not many. They'll gain some of them in any event. It's all in the numbers. "If the President perjured himself in a civil suit, that would certainly be impeachable"...Daniel Patrick Moynihan.