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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (44061)	12/27/1998 12:39:00 AM
From: Kevin K. Spurway	Respond to of 1573028

Re: "Those benchmarks show the K6-3 450 behind a Celeron 300A in GLQuake 2, and behind a Pentium II 400 in Half-Life" I'd love to see those benchmarks, but unfortunately Anand's site is down or something. The bonehead should never have changed it. Half Life is the only major game that I can think of that doesn't have 3dNow support. The trend is for games nowadays to have support right out of the box, and if not then quickly add it in a patch. Considering the lack of 3dNow support in Half Life, the fact that the K6-3 is as fast as a PII-400 on it is, IMHO, actually pretty good, considering that the game designers specifically optimize for PIIs. I'll have to wait and see the benchmarks on that Celeron to explain them, but something sounds fishy. My TNT and K6-2 350 is already considerably faster than a Celeron 300A on Quake 2. Something doesn't add up. Kevin

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (44061)	12/27/1998 1:24:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573028

Tench - RE: "The problem is that AMD still has the reputation of being a low-tier contender. Those system builders who are choosing AMD are choosing it purely because of price. Therefore, the other components that are going into an AMD-based system are also being chosen with regard to price, not quality. That's why quality components are more likely to appear in Intel systems over AMD's. If the builder is going with more expensive components, they might as well go with a more expensive CPU like Intel's, even though you can build a comparable system with an AMD K6-2 and a Super 7 motherboard." Check out the components in the Compaq K6-2 400 based PC: compaq.com Compare those specs to the various PII and other K6-2 5100 and 5600 series PCs. You will see the same level of components.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (44061)	12/27/1998 3:20:00 AM
From: Kevin K. Spurway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573028

Re: "Those benchmarks show the K6-3 450 behind a Celeron 300A in GLQuake 2, and behind a Pentium II 400 in Half-Life." Something is wrong with Anand's benchmarks. I just ran demo1.dm2 timedemo at 800 x 600 (the resolution Anand used in part one of the K6-3 article--he didn't say what he used in the second part, so I assumed it was the same) on my K6-2 392 MHz with a TNT card. I got a score of 43.9 fps. I ran it a second time to double check and got 44.9 fps. Anand shows a K6-2 400 MHz getting a score of 30.8, and the K6-3 450 MHz with a score of 44.9. Could it be that he ran the tests without 3DNow and just didn't make it clear? Could it be that he ran the tests at a higher resolution than in the first half of the review and just didn't bother to tell us? Hmmmm. Kevin