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To: Paul Engel who wrote (44716)	1/4/1999 12:48:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572766

Paul - RE: "You don't understand Intel's segmentation strategy " Yes I do, and so does AMD. AMD will be riding Intel's coat tails with the release of the PIII. Intel is providing a chip for AMD to position the K6-3 against. RE: "And Intel's DIXON - a 256K L2 on chip cache version of the Mendocino, which can run at 1.6 volts - will dominate in the high end notebook segment." Speaking of notebooks, I saw an AMD 333MHz notebook in one of the ads today. The high-end notebook segment has been Intel's for years, but when the K6-3 notebook comes out, it will probably be positioned against Dixon.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (44716)	1/4/1999 1:15:00 AM
From: Maxwell	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 1572766

Priest: <<You don't understand Intel's segmentation strategy - the strategy that has helped AMD lower their 400 MHz K6-2's from $285 to $160 in just a few weeks !>> Do you understand Intel's segmentation strategy? Intel don't even their own segmentation strategy. It has helped to lower Intel PII-400 from $500 to $300 in 2 months. CeleronA 333 has also dropped from $220 to $90 in 2 months. Even Intel dares not to show the benchmark of CeleronA vs PII popular benchmark. They came up with some fictitious ICOM benchmark which no one understands. <<Intel's Celeron is targeted at the cost sensitive market segment - and it will sell on price and reasonably good performance.>> I thought you said Intel doesn't engage in low-end stuffs. Weren't you used to say that Intel goes for the premium price where "mission criticals" are utmost important? If benchmarks of CeleronA and PII-400 are identical then what is reasonable good price/performance? Would the smart ones buy CeleronA and idiots buy PII? <<The REAL performance market will be transitioned to Pentium III/Katmai where Intel will maintain excellent ASPs and high performance - and AMD won't be able to match it in features - even with the Sharp-eye chip - which clearly will not have KNI.>> Not your hype again. You are all propaganda. What killer softwares run KNI? DirectX 6.1 has NO KNI! <<Thus Sharp-eye will have to fight it out in the trenches with Intel's Celerons.>> You mean the K6-2. K6-3 is 15% faster than PII clock for clock! <<And Intel's DIXON - a 256K L2 on chip cache version of the Mendocino, which can run at 1.6 volts - will dominate in the high end notebook segment.>> Blah, Blah, Blah. And K7's VIPER NOTEBOOK- a 256K L2 chip cache version of the K7, which can run at 1.6 volts - will dominate in the high end notebook segment. Maxwell

To: Paul Engel who wrote (44716)	1/4/1999 1:54:00 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572766

RE:"The REAL performance market will be transitioned to Pentium III/Katmai where Intel will maintain excellent ASPs and high performance - and AMD won't be able to match it in features - even with the Sharp-eye chip - which clearly will not have KNI."... Then what happens when the K7 smokes the Pentium III which doesn't have 3DNOW....? Doesn't the performance market realize that the Pentium III and Katmai instructions are the poorer choice. Ahhhh, not used to having the Intel chip smoked? oh well.... Sure, the Katmai chip may be out a month or two before the K7 but that won't be enough time to gain any momentum before the K7 flattens it.... 3DNOW! wasn't a total equilizer for the raw FPU power of the Pentium II. Katmai instructions won't be enough to counter the raw FPU power of the K7... All the best, Jim