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To: Justa Werkenstiff who wrote (27732)1/15/1999 7:00:00 PM
From: Math Junkie  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 70976
 
I doubt that the AMAT thread is a statistically valid sample for investor sentiment on AMAT generally. The fact that it worked once is an inadequate sample for testing any investment strategy. As for bears, they show up once in a while, but we keep driving them out <g>.



To: Justa Werkenstiff who wrote (27732)1/15/1999 11:09:00 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 70976
 
Re: " I hate to bring up fundamentals", and " I see no real bears on this thread"

I got very, very close to selling the remaining half of my leaps today. The only thing that stopped me was when I figured out the taxes I'd pay. I predict that, sometime during 1999, anyone who bought amat in the 50s is going to be very unhappy. I'm now 70% long stocks/calls, 25% cash, and 5% puts. For much of the last two years, I've bought up to 1/3 of my portfolio on margin. Today, I have no margin. Over the next few weeks, if current valuations hold, I'm going to buy a lot of puts (probably index puts), and/or sell my calls. Investors in this stock, and the sector, and stocks in general, are not pricing risk accurately. There are lots of risks out there that are being ignored.

Applied Materials is a money-making machine......eventually. But not now, not last year, not for the next 12 months, and that's as far as anyone can reasonably predict.

Selling AMAT at a P/S of 6, and buying it back when it hits a P/S of 2 (yes, it will be available at that price again, just as it has over and over in the past) is foolproof.



To: Justa Werkenstiff who wrote (27732)1/16/1999 2:03:00 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
Justa,

Do you really feel AMAT is valued appropiately a trough levels after the longest sector recession in equipment history? Should everyone wait to buy until the BTB is 1.2 and sales are $6B/year? We are going from extremely depressed levels to very high levels. Unless you are a trader, you need to look at the BIG PICTURE of semiconductors and how they will cahnge the world even more as we head into the new millenium.

BK