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To: Valkyrie who wrote (23611)1/22/1999 1:17:00 AM
From: Siber  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 43774
 
Donald!!!!!!!! You are back from the high seas!!! Not only back but back to great posting. Must be all that fresh, clean ocean air. *sigh* My Hero! *swoon*

Uh oh....hope the Mrs. isn't reading this. LOL...hope my Mr. isn't. Hahahhaa

Glad to have you back safe and sound,
Helene



To: Valkyrie who wrote (23611)1/22/1999 2:13:00 AM
From: issme  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 43774
 
Very well put Donald.

>>>ISSME<<<



To: Valkyrie who wrote (23611)1/22/1999 9:56:00 AM
From: jhild  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 43774
 
It amazes me Don how you are so driven to distort and how you have such an inverted sense of taking responsibility. That you would blame me and Rosie for causing such a private email group is rather lame. To suggest that the information you pass around is hidden because it will be ripped apart, is really to suggest that it is not true information to begin with. It can't stand scrutiny.

As we know from seeing how things have worked out in that group you are talking about dissent is not tolerated. Though it appears that the dissent that you don't tolerate is the asking of questions. Since I have certainly not been a part of this group of yours, and I doubt that Rosie was as you have admitted this is the reason you all started such a thing, then what does it say, when someone in that group is expelled for asking questions or thinking for themselves?

This is just a form of fascism. A form that you seem most proud of since you seem so wholeheartedly to embrace it. You want me to go away, don't you? You don't want me a part of this dialog. Well that's not going to happen. So get used to it. You keep fumbling for a reason that I am here, hoping that denigrating me will discourage me from posting. Hooboy, you aren't as smart as you like to think you are projecting your down home Hatteras style, while all the while practicing your politics of exclusion and diverting attention with your amateur psychological ramblings.

The shame is all yours and those of you who have resorted to these various tactics of misrepresentation and intimidation. I suppose that you think that it is all right to publish personal information about people, to invade their privacy, to call them names, as long as it is in the name of silencing dissent? If you really want to talk about fraud, then let's talk about your fraud. You and yours, in the name of making a dollar, would leave behind all of the American values that you seem so earnestly to project and that you pretend to protect. So while you continue to wrap yourself in a Norman Rockwell image of Americana, earnestly portraying a humble tuna fisherman spouting homilies, you are no more a part of American values, than any of the other ideological "isms" that American blood has been shed defending itself from.



To: Valkyrie who wrote (23611)1/22/1999 11:41:00 AM
From: ColleenB  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 43774
 
Hooboy donald,

That was some speech. And since I'm one of the parties you seek to tar and feather, I will take this one opportunity to speak up for myself and set a few things straight. After which, I will be more than happy to discuss problems I see with PRWT.

First off, I understand there's a rumor spreading like wild fire that I no longer own any shares of PRWT and that when I did, I only owned 35,000 shares. I would like this person to identity him/herself so that I can ask where they got such information. There has been only one time on the PRWT thread where I identified the number of shares I owned. It was early on, when Rosie was taking a share count. In addition to this false rumor, it is said that I sold my shares at 5 cents. Again, please step forward I would like to know where you come by this supposed information. Go back through the records and see when I came onto the PRWT thread and compare the share price at the time. I hope you can back up what you have said, because you are a fraud.

I have also received a PM declaring to me that some very personal and private information about me and my family is subject to be released to the public thread. This information is of a very sensitive nature and the only good that would come of this is personal discomfort and fear for the welfare of my family. It seems that you people will stoop to all levels to silence anybody who has something to say about PRWT. I hope you can all feel proud of yourselves.

I'm speaking up because I have concerns. Why do we pretend that everything is perfect with PRWT when it is not? Why can't we ask civil questions of one another on the public thread even if it doesn't cast the best light on PRWT? Why do questions have to be cloaked and preapproved by a secret society email group before a person is allowed to speak up publicly?

Is somebody's only acceptance by the PRWT longs is to pretend that everything is great? I do not approve of these intimidation and silencing methods that are being employed and embraced by all the longs. The threads should be used as a source of information not manipulative encouragement. For that is what has happened. With information not being posted to the public thread we are all guilty of willful manipulation. People plunk down cash on rumors of what MIGHT be, we have no proof that what we hear will ever materialize. What if things are NOT as great and wonderful as we all want them to be? Are we better off not knowing these details, keeping our heads buried?

I have fallen victim to hype on too many stocks and and have grown weary of the misleading posts that continue and dominate the threads. I've also learned that to post the ugly truth does not drive the price down. Jhild and Rosie do not affect the price as much as people want to fuss and snort about this possibility. There's a reason the price
is where it is, and that's because nothing has been accomplished/finalized. Jhild and Rosie cannot stop progress, if things were actually happening, the price would rise in accordance.

I would also like to address the issue that I am being linked with Jhild and Rosie. This is not true and you know this. It must be easier for you to believe that I am working in concert with them rather than to accept the fact that I might have concerns about PRWT after being a loyal long for the time I have been. To be an investor does not mean we have to be of one mind. If there are issues out there let them be known. If the risk reward factor is something you are comfortable with, fine, but don't control what others may need to make a decision for themselves. It's this constant masquerade, this PRETENDING that everything is wonderful that gets everybody all wound up and over involved in the daily ticks of the tape.



To: Valkyrie who wrote (23611)1/23/1999 9:35:00 AM
From: ColleenB  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 43774
 
as for your informant...i have read your threats against a member of the "list"...your viscousness is well noted.

donald... so nice of you to have mentioned this. I would like to see my threats posted to the public thread, if would be so kind.

Also, might I take a moment and set up the scenario..... In an email letter to the "group", I had expressed frustration in the SI PRWT thread not discussing matters pertinent to PRWT. That they would rather engage in personal attacks against Rosie and jhild. I was contacted by the RagingBull "thread head" to join them at the RagingBull as they love to discuss anything about PRWT in an open and friendly forum. That they are courteous and respectable in their responses and that their goal was to seek out the truth. Like a fool, I believed him and made a few posts over there....

please note I erred in this first post and should have said PanAm and not PRWT...
ragingbull.com
ragingbull.com

these posts are particularly interesting..
ragingbull.com
ragingbull.com
ragingbull.com

after these posts, I am confronted and slandered by the very person who invited me over to the RagingBull.. and here was my post to him
ragingbull.com

and from this point onward, the posters at the bull thought it fair game to post lies about myself in an attempt to stop my open discussions. I was quite angry to have been treated in such a manner.... now, donald... produce my "threat" and my follow up note.

ALSO... donald, I'd like some proof regarding the notion which you want to spread that I am jhild's informant (see the first three words in this post). Or do these ideals you spout and snort at jhild not apply to you?

the more you talk, the more you show who you really are...

yes, donald... I couldn't agree with you more.