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To: Jing Qian who wrote (5892)	3/2/1999 1:44:00 PM
From: gizelle otero	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 29970

Can one of you internet "wise guys" please comment on this post I found on Yahoo! re:ATHM.... Thanks. For those of you who don't understand what is at stake here for AOL, ATT and others, let me spell it out for you as an industry insider. AOL and ATT must buy ATHM very soon now because ATHM will be the the next generation internet pipeline for over 60 million homes and business (this figure is growing at 500% every 9-12 months). In short, what ATHM does is offer internet service and content to customers at 100 times faster rates than a 56KbS modem. Fiber cable is at least 20 years away, and probably won't ever happen. Wireless does not have the bandwidth to do the job for upload and download. It's also damned expensive (just look at IRIDIUM's failure to see one example). ATHM is the ONLY option for the internet to grow and provide "live" video content. TWO years from now, you will be surfing the net through cable and paying LESS than you do now for dial-up access. If you are surfing from a business location, this is also true. ATHM is going to reap ALL those benefits and if it is not bought out at about $300.00 post split within a year, it will be at $1000.00 a share within 3 years. Just buy it now and sit back. AOL and everyone else will come calling real soon. That's why Harmon called ATHM "AOL on steroids" for 1999. See you at Vail next winter if you follow my advice and buy ATHM right now. Happy (ski) trails!

To: Jing Qian who wrote (5892)	3/2/1999 2:43:00 PM
From: JakeSki	Respond to of 29970

Why do you care if it is USB or 10T? Why would you 'demand' a NIC If you don't need it? Its just one more PCI slot that is used up, and one more piece of hardware to break. -- George

To: Jing Qian who wrote (5892)	3/2/1999 3:10:00 PM
From: Killian	Respond to of 29970

Jing Qian, Do you have a vacant IRQ? If not, then they will try to use your USB port! Doesn't always work though as sometimes it is not readible. For mine they freed up a comm port in my IRQ and installed a COMS eithernet card and it SCREAMS! Good luck, Kevin

To: Jing Qian who wrote (5892)	3/2/1999 4:10:00 PM
From: Scott Garee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29970

I don't have enough experience with USB to know whether it makes a good network pipe. I'd be curious to know what the datalink layer looks like. How much data can it transfer per interrupt? With a NIC you're going to get an IP packet per interrupt (in general.) It doesn't save them that much money. You can get a decent NIC for <$10 at Frye's. It might not be a bad idea to pick up a NIC and have it handy when they show up. I had one, so they just used it. (I also made him leave me the one they brought as a standby.) Anyone using USB networking?

To: Jing Qian who wrote (5892)	3/3/1999 3:20:00 AM
From: Jay Lowe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29970

1. If you don't have a NIC in your machine, you want one for other reasons. 2. USB 1.0 has a top effective bandwidth around 7 Mbps ...when you later add other USB peripherals they will contend for this. 3. Not all USB silicon in PCs is good yet ... your results may vary 4. Not all PCs with USB ports have the ports actually connected to the back panel (yikes, it's true!) 5. USB is a high-maintenance serial protocol ... chit-chatting with USB takes about 10x the processing power of typical NICs 6. PC interaction with the USB Host controller is polled, as I remember, instead of interrupt-driven. You may never notice the difference between a NIC and USB, but the NIC rocks and the USB will be chokin' trying to keep up with cable. Intel recently announced USB 2.0 ... they're talkin 100-200 Mbps ... now that starts to get interesting ... still have to make the host controllers more intelligent so they can function more autonomously and not have to talk to daddy every few bytes.