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To: IRVINESULLY who wrote (3391)	3/18/1999 10:58:00 PM
From: Benkea	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6439

Ginny: "PS: I thought rape was against the law!!!!" How were you dressed? Just kidding I thought consent was a decent defense to rape?

To: IRVINESULLY who wrote (3391)	3/18/1999 11:25:00 PM
From: Merlo	Respond to of 6439

What a shame look what they've done to America..I remember great guys like Joe DiMaggio and other American greats. Compare them to todays losers, the Clintons, the con men, the media types who are corrupting our youth.

To: IRVINESULLY who wrote (3391)	3/19/1999 12:26:00 AM
From: Warlock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6439

Ginny, Nice to hear from you. I wish I could respond in like fashion, but uinfortunately I'm operating on a miniscule amount of sleep, and must head to bed shortly. Myself, I've actually never smoked. Never even tried. Personally, I find the habit sickening. But I support the right of people to do so. .. and I can't stand the hypocrisy of some citizens and the government. . . the people who attempt to pawn off their decisions, and their difficulties on someone else. And the government, who double-dips into the pot through taxes and lawsuits, doing whatever they can to make a buck at the expense of industry. I'm told that in some areas of California where there is a smoking ordinance. . .a cigar bar cannot even be opened up. Not even an establishment expressly INTENDED for smoking!!! This is purely ludicrous. I look forward to discussing these issues more with you in the future, Ginny. . . but for now, its bed time! Patrick

To: IRVINESULLY who wrote (3391)	3/19/1999 4:31:00 AM
From: Erwin Rysz	Respond to of 6439

Ginny: Yes the govt. is now a partner of the tobacco companies - a partner with no equity, just a take. It clearly has more to gain by seeing that people do continue smoking, or else it (the states) would lose money. What a twisted form of logic, but then so much of the thinking today does take on a warped, twisted form. Just imagine if our govt. (the agencies and departments) were not political - if they did the job they were designed to do, and were not made to do the political bidding of Klinton etc. We'd have a military that wouldn't be the cops of the world, a justice department that might really be able to investigate and prosecute crime (no need then for special prosecuters as it would be uneeded) an education department that might have the education of our kids at heart and ensure choice and quality. There would be no tobacco war, because politics would be removed from the business of governing. A demogoge like Klinton needs his holy war against the tobacco companies for the same reason that tyrants need purges and final solutions. It is the same thinking that has led to linking the schools to the internet, while academic scores and reading ability have declined. Perhaps sanity on the part of individual juries might yet save us from the political persecution. let's hope they hold the devil at bay till the next election, when we can purge this demon from office. It really had nothing to do with sex after all.

To: IRVINESULLY who wrote (3391)	3/19/1999 9:08:00 AM
From: md1derful	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6439

Wow, Ginny..awesome,girl...nope, you got it all wrong..the nature of the tobacco addiction-dependence in NOT clearly understood..I keep telling my 7 year old, that when she goes to McDonalds and has a hamburger.."you might just as well be smoking a cigarette"..do not the food companies doctor their foods with fat because that's what the public demands..cost of treating heart disease, the nations #1 killer is staggering...tell me why aren't the lawyers after big mac too...zillions of people have quit cigarettes..its pretty hard to give up fast food..boy, talk about addicting!!! Best regards