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To: DenverTechie who wrote (6)	4/21/1999 11:54:00 AM
From: HighTech	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 368

I heard on the news one teenager from the high school saying that it was society's fault that these two teens did what they did. The media likes to present that side without serious commentary as to the fallacy of that position. There is no personal responsibility anymore - everyone is a victim, even those who commit the crimes. What are parents teaching their kids, if anything? Parents have to take some responsibility for their kids' behavior. There is gross negligence and no vigilance on the part of the killers' parents. HiTech

To: DenverTechie who wrote (6)	4/21/1999 5:08:00 PM
From: Mr. Rhino	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 368

I think I have a reason why. It is only a theory. America is run by corporations. And corporations have designed the modern suburbs. And what these corporations have created is a country that consists of ANYTOWN, ANYWHERE, USA. This is a problem. Now when I was a kid growing up on Long Island in the 1970's I was lucky enough to live in an area that had it's own identity. Somewhat. My father used to take me to Artie's food Store in the morning. You could walk there from our house. It was where a lot of the people in the neighborhood went. And when I was growing up, I felt that I and my town had it's own identity. We were attached to something, but yet we could be different without being brutalized. It's hard enough to go through high school sometimes. Those teenagers can be cruel. Two kids I knew committed suicide because of being picked on. My wife, who grew up in St. Charles Missouri, ran out of there as soon as she was 18. She said everything was the SAME growing up. And if you were different, you were brutalized. No room for self expression. Everything dictated down by CORPORATE America. No Artie's food store, no local butcher, not even coffee shop. No one ever really knew here name. The streets were too big, malls too big, and everything thought of for you. You want a burger - McDonald's. Want Steak -Ponderosa Taco- Taco Bell Pizza - Pizza Hut and so on and so on. I never rally thought of it until I met her six years ago, but she told me emphatically that these types of suburbs breed sickness because kids cannot identify with anything. and if they dare go outside the norm, they get picked on mercilessly. Now again this is a thought. But I think, since all people are different, they need to think and be able to act differently. If they can't, you get this craziness. The answers obviously start at home first, but in society, a kid NEEDS to feel like he/she belongs to something. Something real, not thought up somewhere in some corporate office. They need to have dreams that can be realized, and not be butalized for their Different thinking. My wife's brother had to leave high school because he was a little different, and he was tortured sometimes. He almost killed himself when he was a teenager. Now kids who are tortured for thinking and acting differently react. And sometimes badly. A child needs an Artie's Food Store in his life. At least I did. It was a place where people knew my father and our family. I remember as a kid feeling proud about that. I wasn't on line at Denny's every morning waiting for someone to serve me some corporate breakfast. We need coffee shops, local book stores, family owned restaurants that families can identify with. Maybe that's why these things keep happening in ANYTOWN, USA. Because they are exactly that - Anytown Mr. Rhino