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To: nuke44 who wrote (20110)4/25/1999 8:54:00 PM
From: lorrie coey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20981
 
Nuke, what's "Nine-Tenths of the Law"?

Hypertext Webster Gateway: "possession"

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)

Possession \Pos*ses"sion\, n. [F. possession, L. possessio.] 1. The act or state of possessing, or holding as one's own.

2. (Law) The having, holding, or detention of property in one's power or command; actual seizing or occupancy; ownership,
whether rightful or wrongful.


Note: ***Possession may be either actual or constructive; actual, when a party has the immediate occupancy; constructive, when
he has only the right to such occupancy.


3. The thing possessed; that which any one occupies, owns, or controls; in the plural, property in the aggregate; wealth;
dominion; as, foreign possessions.

When the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions. --Matt. xix. 22.

Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. --Acts v. 1.

The house of Jacob shall possess their possessions. --Ob. 17.

4. The state of being possessed or controlled, as by an evil spirit, or violent passions; madness; frenzy; as, demoniacal
possession.

How long hath this possession held the man? --Shak.

To give possession, to put in another's power or occupancy.

To put in possession. (a) To invest with ownership or occupancy; to provide or furnish with; as, to put one in possession of
facts or information. (b) (Law) To place one in charge of property recovered in ejectment or writ of entry.

To take possession, to enter upon, or to bring within one's power or occupancy.

Writ of possession (Law), a precept directing a sheriff to put a person in peaceable possession of property recovered in
ejectment or writ of entry.

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)

Possession \Pos*ses"sion\, v. t. To invest with property. [Obs.]

From WordNet (r) 1.6 (wn)

possession n 1: the act of possessing; "they took possession of the ball" [syn: {ownership}] 2: anything owned or possessed 3:
being controlled by passion or the supernatural 4: a mania restricted to one thing or idea [syn: {monomania}]


So you think that,

"The males who consider abortion murder, would have a relevant opinion, especially if they had fertilized the egg that produced the fetus being aborted."

These "men" assume the absurd position of ownership of biological material which is in another persons _possession... without a contract detailing specific terms of joint ownership, this person asserts a ridiculous argument.
At conception, the transformation of the male's alpha-gamete causes it to no longer exist as it was...it loses it's form and identity...and it's tail! A unique combination of the two entities, [ova/spermatazoa]
results in an embryo.

This Embryo is a unique entity, and the Female has legal possession of it...it's very existence depends on the Woman's survival, and it's sustinance is literally, the Woman's blood.
The Embryo is attached to the Woman...Part of the Woman.

"I'm pro-choice, if somewhat critical of people who indulge their libidos without worrying about contraception and then repeatedly use abortion as a quick fix for something they weren't responsible enough to prevent in the first place."

It sounds like you consider the Female to be the one who is ultimately responsible for preventing impregnation...that's not too logical if yo think about the act of "copulation"

It's as if the males you speak of feel persecuted by a Woman's ability to gestate at will...like they themselves are being killed by a Woman's Dominion.

My premise is backed by Mother Nature.



To: nuke44 who wrote (20110)4/26/1999 2:01:00 AM
From: pezz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20981
 
<<The males who consider abortion murder, would have a relevant opinion, especially
if they had fertilized the egg that produced the fetus being aborted>> The problem here is that as we know abortion is an all or nothing situation. No compromise is possible. Thus since the woman is clearly the player during the nine month pregnancy. Our opinion is indeed not relevant. For any all or nothing situation the minority position has no standing.
pez