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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (45005)	5/2/1999 9:52:00 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Not to mention the Chinese chafing at our commitments to defend Taiwan, the SEATO, etc. I believe that the PRC will be the next superpower. Numbers alone guarantee a place at the table. As the country modernizes, virtues which used to be cherished in the US such as hard work, real education, etc. will insure that the Chinese will someday be the rival superpower we now lack. The only question is whether the US will still be a superpower when that becomes reality. If we keep on electing bums like Clinton, my guess is the sun sets on our "empire" sooner rather than later. JLA

To: Neocon who wrote (45005)	5/2/1999 6:38:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

But what, exactly, should be done at this point? The secrets are out. It's not a proliferation failure, like the one that took place as we yearly went through the charade of certifying that Pakistan wasn't developing nukes. My understanding is that the leakage was uncovered when intelligence discovered the Chinese had tested more advanced weapons than they should have been able to develop. And on the timing issue, it still seems that it mostly happened before Clinton was president. Nobody says it should be ignored, but how it makes Clinton the new Hitler, as has been asserted here, is beyond me. What can be done at this point beyond assessing the damage and plugging the holes? And how is Clinton's delays in doing what little can be done at this point worse than what was done in previous administrations when the spy or spies were put in place and the real damage was done? Also, it's far from clear that plugging the holes makes much difference at this point, in terms of the bomb labs, do we really need another generation of nukes at this stage? Good political theatre, though, plenty of opportunities for self righteous posturing. Did you follow the Aldrich Ames story? My recollection is that he was treated with bizzarrely courteous kid gloves, until the real story somehow leaked out. Not because of high level malfeasance, as is alleged here, but because of low level clubiness and butt covering I don't see anything obviously much different here, except the inevitable additions of the omnipresent Clinton hatred industry. Or do you hold with the local Johnny Huang conspiracy theory? A theory with somewhat less visible substance than the Starr-Porter connection.