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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (9439)5/21/1999 4:49:00 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 17770
 
Read your law. If you prevented the commission of a violent life threatening crime by
killing the perpetrator, its called justifiable homicide.


True, but only if the killing was necessary and reasonable. Acting in self-defense you are given more leeway. Acting in defense of another, the rule is stricter.

In case ou care, LaFave and Scott, the recognized authorities on criminal law, put it this way: "The prevailing rule is that one is justified in using reasonable force in defense of another person, evan a stranger, when he reasonably believes that the other is immediate danger of unlawful bodily harm from his adversary and that the use of such force is necessary to avoid this danger. Deadly force is reasonable force only when the attack of the adversary upon the orhter person reasonably appears to the defender to be a deadly attack."

However, while most jurisdictions allow defense of a stranger, some jurisdictions do not. In those cases, if you have no relationship to the person being attacked, you have no legal right to go to their defense, and you would be liable for assault for doing so.

So be sure to know the law of the jurisdiction you are in before going to somebody's aid. Otherwise, you may wind up spending a lot of money with me or one of my colleagues. <g>



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (9439)5/21/1999 5:26:00 PM
From: Enigma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Ron - you should take up fishing - for Red Herrings. d



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (9439)5/21/1999 5:40:00 PM
From: Enigma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Actually you're the one who supplies the red herrings - you toss them into the pond and expect others to bite. Not bad at setting up straw men either. I might attack a man beating his wife - probably would - but if I killed him - I'm not so sanguine as you that I would get off scott free - I guess it's a question of degree - was his behaviour to his wife sufficiently bad for me to take the law into my own hands and kill him? But it's still a very red herring.

I'm not sure where the similarity to Kosevo comes in - we haven't killed the wife beater - in fact we may have stirred him up into beating all his wife's sisters and cousins and aunts - and he's still there and likely to stay.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (9439)5/21/1999 5:51:00 PM
From: goldsnow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Anyway you look it it is everything but domestic conflict....More it is civil war, brutal and terrible civil war...and we are right in the middle of it....We do not have even guts to take side..Are we on albanian side? Think again we ALL BUT GUARANTEED THAT KLA can't win, no arms, no independance, no separation..If one diluting himself that KLA want autonomy within Serbia or even would agree to such an oucome
in exchange to Milosevic removal it is absurd..Would palestinians agree to undivided Jerusalem because of Bibi demise?
We can't win this war....At least Forbes intelectually honest when stating his position to arm and support KLA, it s short-sided but honest position