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The Residential Real Estate Crash Index
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59807JQP You don't understand the big picture. With global warming and the sea leBroken_Clock8/11/2006
59806I bicycled up the Intercoastal Waterway of Florida a few years back. They were Think4Yourself8/11/2006
59805"I sincerely doubt many of these will actually finally close when the towerXoFruitCake8/11/2006
59804That would make sense except that the reason the Wholesale prices have gone downThink4Yourself8/11/2006
59803His argument is that the trend in prices that builders pay is opposite to the trMoominoid8/11/2006
59802Obviously in the Bay Area building material cost is least important as the propoMoominoid8/11/2006
59801A few weeks ago I visited a WCI community in Pensacola, Lost Key. Looked at the tdl41388/11/2006
59800GDP profits don't even deduct things like depreciation and amortization so tMoominoid8/11/2006
59799Why the growing wedge between the two prices? i.e. is there increasing monopoly Moominoid8/11/2006
59798Your argument implies there was a bubble (which there was) as stock valuations rMoominoid8/11/2006
59797Housing Panic Blog draws a lot of comments these days. It can be a real hoot tooGeorge K.8/11/2006
59796Defaults for the towers and different from defaults for single family builders. Ramsey Su8/11/2006
59795lol -- that's me too, and I'm a guy. We have a department store thatChrisJP8/11/2006
59794My wife saved $50 today buying something on sale. That is how Rockefeller got hmishedlo8/11/2006
59793<i>Are you serious? Would not surprise me as Cramer appears to be the ultimishedlo8/11/2006
59792I think the conference call is going to be available for at least a few more dayXoFruitCake8/11/2006
59791<i>No one seems to be thinking of stagflation and protecting the value of mishedlo8/11/2006
59790Over the long-term, changes in real estate and home prices have matched changes Elroy Jetson8/11/2006
59789I was actually harking back to this earlier exchange we had. Message 22630325 Metacomet8/11/2006
59788Manias are usually fuelled by debt, not income. In the longer run, falling incoElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59787Simple. Lax lending standards that allow people to "pay" beyond their KeepItSimple8/11/2006
59786The book you are talking about sounds nothing like the "Millionaire Next DoTradelite8/11/2006
59785The Housing Bubble: Bursting, or Just Leaking? weekly.inginvestment.com In ouLes H8/11/2006
59784Good article on Tobias site: andrewtobias.comMetacomet8/11/2006
59783iirc, in TMND, the author was saying that the person who didn't want to saveLizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59782This bust probably won't be exactly like the previous one (no two are identiCalculatedRisk8/11/2006
59781I have a friend that is in the roughing business... Last year he was running 5..Chas.8/11/2006
59780That is an amazing picture. How can we reconcile the phenomenon of home price iMetacomet8/11/2006
59779<<I once read this book "the millionaire next door" which is reaTradelite8/11/2006
59778If home prices decline as they did in 1989, we should see a modest decline in hoElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59777NEWS: The Housing Bubble Blog A popular blogger explains how he predicted the csylvester808/11/2006
59776yeah, this is right up there with my favorite saving slogan.... <b>You caLizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59775Do you really think anyone on this thread is crazy enough to think builders buy Think4Yourself8/11/2006
59774SoCal Housing Sales From the San Diego Union: <b>County home prices dropCalculatedRisk8/11/2006
59773Liz, I'm going to try to interpret your question into one that I often dealtTradelite8/11/2006
59772wow! Now THATS what I needed to see, thanks. I am certain the wage picture is Lizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59771Exactly correct. That's why the sales volume of homes has been declining forElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59770Very true, and the portion of GDP paid out in wages is dropping like a rock. &lElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59769re: 1989 in CA I have heard some say that lending was lax in 1989 but what happLizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59768<<The fact is that houses cost so much more than building materials, maybeTradelite8/11/2006
59767I'm curious to know if a RE agent like yourself thinks building materials inLizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59766<I>If the Florida condo market does not reignite in the immediate future, Lizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59765And you revert to the elementary-school mentality when discussing what I must haTradelite8/11/2006
59764The price of a good spanking and detention time are quite affordable, and you neElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59763in the bubble markets which include my area, the building materials= inflation aLizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59762Heh, I don't have to purchase any lumber to maintain my home. Any lumber neTradelite8/11/2006
59761You consider the fact that lumber prices are 37% lower today, than they were twoElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59760<<Major home builders don't purchase their supplies at Home Depot and Tradelite8/11/2006
59759doesn't GDP use GAAP profits? Because although cash flow is rising I wasn&#Lizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59758A picture that sez a thousand words: <img src='http://stockcharts.com/c-patron_anejo_por_favor8/11/2006
59757If major home builders paid the high-retail prices you do, for building materialElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59756Major home builders don't purchase their supplies at Home Depot and your locElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59755The share of profits in GDP is rising rapidly. That's the explanation.Moominoid8/11/2006
59754No, no, no. This is the modern definition. <u>Modern definition</u>Elroy Jetson8/11/2006
59753What caused the real estate bubble to pop in 1989 in California? There were no mElroy Jetson8/11/2006
59752>>Where is Patron given what has happened with LEND?<< Shopping forpatron_anejo_por_favor8/11/2006
59751online.wsj.com THE OUTLOOK <b>As Data Point to Slowdown, Housing MMulhollandDrive8/11/2006
59750>>To them Cramer seems intelligent<< As Luc sez, "He knows stupatron_anejo_por_favor8/11/2006
59749Wonder what replacement costs are like in Danville or Tucumcari?<G>patron_anejo_por_favor8/11/2006
59748I couldn't get any shares then, but they did have poots so I really didn'patron_anejo_por_favor8/11/2006
59747Not to mention the fact that if demand for building materials craters, prices fopatron_anejo_por_favor8/11/2006
59746"If the Florida condo market does not reignite in the immediate future, WCITravis_Bickle8/11/2006
59745That explains WCI's plunge towards 0 today. What happens to puts if a compaThink4Yourself8/11/2006
59744WCI reported this week. The earnings conf call is really worth listening to, ifRamsey Su8/11/2006
59743Money and Markets Friday, August 11, 2006 I have repeatedly warned you about maTravis_Bickle8/11/2006
59742Congrats. I see market didn't buy into the TOA figures the other day. NoticeJohn Vosilla8/11/2006
59741<<There will be a glut of products on the market in 12 months.>> MaTradelite8/11/2006
59740WCI broke through finally. I don't have a gargantuan position anymore but sTravis_Bickle8/11/2006
59739'To them Cramer seems intelligent.' The problem is Cramer is very intelJohn Vosilla8/11/2006
59738'The questions for the housing market now are: how far? how fast? What will John Vosilla8/11/2006
59737It helps to remember that the average american is, from a financial standpoint, Think4Yourself8/11/2006
59736'The interesting thing about Cramer is that his real estate contact is none John Vosilla8/11/2006
59735You can still but RE way below replacement in many parts of the country. HousesJohn Vosilla8/11/2006
59734RE: "I have personally been in the market in recent months for such simple Don Earl8/11/2006
59733Lending standards were extremely tight the first half of the 1990's. CompleJohn Vosilla8/11/2006
59732So about once every 20 years it seems. Doubt we get another boom quite like thiJohn Vosilla8/11/2006
59731Realogy spin off. I believe everybody that owned Cendant shares got Realogy sharzebra4o18/11/2006
59730I shorted Realogy after it had been trading 5 days - had no problem getting sharzebra4o18/11/2006
59729'why do investors buy into this type of structure?' The low PE always iJohn Vosilla8/11/2006
59728we don't have any job growth anyway, and haven't for years.Lizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59727No one seems to be thinking of stagflation and protecting the value of your dollJohn Vosilla8/11/2006
59726"The cutback in defense jobs, complete with multiplier effects, of slightlyLes H8/11/2006
59725Might be different for spinoffs than IPO. You can buy and sell the spinner/spinTravis_Bickle8/11/2006
59724can you short when stocks first come out? I don't think so.Lizzie Tudor8/11/2006
59723Wish I had noticed your post on Realogy. Would have been great to get in the dayzebra4o18/11/2006
59722Looks like WCI is going to test the 52 week low today.Travis_Bickle8/11/2006
59721A little help. Standard & Poor's released Wednesday Trends in U.S. ResiRamsey Su8/11/2006
59720Had to buy some sheathing last night. Normally use 5/8 T1-11 but the price had Think4Yourself8/11/2006
59719chci is another one of those rip off stocks where management owns all of the cMadharry8/11/2006
59718The savings rate the Fed uses is accurate. Savings = production - consumption. mishedlo8/11/2006
59717<i>I find it astounding someone of his age is doing. A whole nation hookedmishedlo8/11/2006
59716<i>I would be surprised if Cramer has a clue what WCI builds.</i> Tmishedlo8/11/2006
59715Yes it was very traumatic for people in the defense industry to lose their jobs,Elroy Jetson8/11/2006
59714Midland/Odessa was the location for "Friday Night Lights."Live2Sail8/11/2006
59713I don't track it, but I'm sure it's big in Midland/Odessa. Not a lobentway8/11/2006
59712It happened in Hawaii in 94-97 in real estate. Lots, homes & condos were belBroken_Clock8/11/2006
59711I totally agree that input prices have been increasing, but why can't a finiLive2Sail8/11/2006
59710My parents closed the sale of their SLO home July 5, 2005. All downhill in SLOtoBroken_Clock8/11/2006
59709Very funny. I forgot about that prediction. It reminds of the DOW 1,000,000 (oCalculatedRisk8/11/2006
59708yes sorry.... 4% GDP <b>GROWTH</b> as the fed reports. They hardly Lizzie Tudor8/10/2006
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