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Strategies & Market Trends
Elliott Wave Theory
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Emcee:  David W. Taylor Type:  Moderated
Recently I have started to follow something called Elliott Wave analysis. I see it as the only method of technical analysis that seems to be based on a theory that makes sense to me.

See elliottwave.com (EWI) for as much information about Elliott as you can stand.

The basic idea is that all markets, and indeed indiviual stocks, move in a 5/3 wave pattern that follows established rules based on Fibonacci/Fractal logic. Each wave in the pattern is given an index and as technicians label waves they come up with something called a "count."

Right now the count that I have the most confidence in (EWI's) is suggesting that we are in a pattern where we are pointed down at the five most commonly talked about levels. (see below)

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Bob Prechter is the main theorist at EWI and he correctly predicted the start of the 1982 bull market using these techniques. In the mid nineties, he made a new long term prediction that a new bear trend would assert itself. Currently his analysis is more convincing (at least to me) than any other out there.

He has us temporarily bottoming in 2003/2004 and then starting up for a while from there. This new upwards thrust, however would not be an uninterrupted leap to the skies; merely a period of bullishness.

The amount of space left to the downside before 2003/2004 is where everyone scoffs at him. His predictions for the five wave levels are:

Intermediate: below 9,000 (DJIA)
Primary: below 6,000
Cycle: below 2,750
Supercycle: below 400 (no typo 400)
Grand Supercycle: below 400

Why start this thread? To see if we can come to any agreement on how good these predictions based on Elliott are.

They seem fairly good to me but they are weakest in the time span element. Prechter has been talking about a bear market for the last few years and even he admits astonishment about the length and size of some of these waves.

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There are interesting elements of psychology in the theory as well. EWI cover these as "Cultural Trends." An example would be the recent protests against the "colonization" of the Mission District and the "Starbuckization" of San Francisco.

The theory suggests that the waves of the stock market reflect the psychology of the masses. As the mood of the people changes the market moves. To quote Prechter's "The Wave Principle of Human Social Behavior" in chapter 15, page 255 he states: "The trends in the stock market and such activities as described in this chapter are coincident because they reflect social moods directly. As positive mood waxes, many people buy stocks, watch Disney films, prefer music that expresses joy, and bestow their overflowing ecstasy upon pop stars. When the negative mood waxes, many people sell stocks, watch horror movies, prefer music that expresses dissatisfaction, and have little ecstasy to bestow.
In contrast, most trends that are deemed important to history, such as those economic and political, lag trends in the social mood."

What do you think?
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43Any of you guys heard of this guy? youtube.comGiordano Bruno-9/28/2010
42Or twice during the afternoon today FAS did what I would consider a 5 wave type Feraldo-4/21/2009
41Been studying the Bulkowski ending diagonal triangle. thepatternsite.com I doFeraldo-4/21/2009
40LOL. DOW --> negative return for the decade - and that includes dividends.gpowell-7/1/2008
39the ultimate short Elliot Wave In other news, XShares also inked an agreement wida_cheif™-2/15/2007
38This is a dead thread. Whoa! CyclePro Elliott Wave Rules and Guidelines: geocisammy™ -_--1/27/2006
37<i>DW has been wrong for the last 9 months...</i> I'm not conviMike M-1/25/2001
36DW has been wrong for the last 9 months in the same manner that RP was wrong befDavid W. Taylor-1/25/2001
35<i>DW is mostly annoying. </i> Actually, he seems to be mostly righMike M-1/25/2001
34Seems strange that DW beat out RP since roughly 1987, when RP made his call. MaDavid W. Taylor-1/24/2001
33I use ElWave, a really good program for counting Elliot Waves objectively. If aHigh Grader-1/24/2001
32Hey david.....go here..http://www.wolanchuk.com/ and david for a guy that sits ida_cheif™-1/24/2001
31David, The best I can ethically do is say the concept is discussed in Noble'tuck-12/15/2000
30Tuck, Great question and the answer is definitely in the negative. Could you tDavid W. Taylor-12/15/2000
29Hi, David, Have any of you folks looked into Grant Noble's contention that tuck-12/15/2000
28Hey chief, Since you know so much about the Volanchuck guy, why don't you eDavid W. Taylor-12/15/2000
27yo bobby watsamatta...you getin all riled over a shoe salesman whos doin all demda_cheif™-12/15/2000
26u and prechter are market ho's , hyping big #'s to attract followers to bobby beara-12/14/2000
25lol, cheif u are the same a prechter, counting elliot waves to from 1798 or to dbobby beara-12/14/2000
24<i>Mike, if Prechter is so wrong, how can he still be in business? </i&Mike M-12/13/2000
23As a subscriber to some of the EWI publications, I can say that EWI has been absDavid W. Taylor-12/13/2000
22Way too early since 1987 tends to lose meaning. Prechter was wrong then and conMike M-12/13/2000
21convincing???? lol...so was hitler...lmazof...the fact is he doesnt have the fogda_cheif™-12/12/2000
20Chief, That is one of the most off the wall and almost unreadable rants that I David W. Taylor-12/12/2000
19before you waste anymore time with the bear case see this....http://www.siliconida_cheif™-12/12/2000
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