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To: Dayuhan who wrote (44465)	7/7/1999 11:50:00 PM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

To All...Please be advised that I have met Rambi today in 3D, and she is as pleasant and witty and rational in person as she is here and on DAR. I advise all of you to travel to Dallas so that you can meet her too. Oh, and she is kind of pretty too, and looks only about 26 years old, even though I know she must be older, or really needs to explain how she has an 18 year old son. Thank you for the pleasant time, Rambi! Del

To: Dayuhan who wrote (44465)	7/8/1999 12:11:00 AM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>All men are pigs; it is either an inalienable right or an inherent characteristic, I've forgotten which.< Message 10402711

To: Dayuhan who wrote (44465)	7/8/1999 12:16:00 AM
From: jpmac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Piddle. They are not all pigs. Get over it. And why would you want a young man to think that? And it's good to see you.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (44465)	7/8/1999 12:25:00 AM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>Depressing. Like snorkeling through a cemetery. The coral will of course grow back; at an inch every hundred years it may reach its previous condition in a few millennia.< Maybe I can offer a cheerier note. This is kinda like a submarine forest fire. Young coral larvae will colonize the dead stuff, and within decades, not millennia, that cove will be a riot of little guys staking out turf. It'll be like a dense grove of saplings in a fire meadow.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (44465)	7/8/1999 9:21:00 AM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

You definitely need a subscription to REAL MEN MAGAZINE! Ha-ha!!! FT is on a rant about all human activity being motivated by greed and rage, or some such, and he pops up from time to time spouting. Greed and fear. You should provoke sisterhood because it is great fun, and for the most part their comebacks are "filled with sound and fury but signify nothing". As for volcanoes, I say stop the potential deadly eruptions (such as the one that may be building within Vesuvius) by unplugging them with robotic needle-masers or, better yet, a series of relatively clean nuclear bombs that will unplug the lava shaft and effectively disarm the volcano. FT

To: Dayuhan who wrote (44465)	7/8/1999 12:27:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Sorry to read about the destruction of the coral. That sounds heartbreaking. >>>>>I wonder what Terrence would say about it; presumably that since nobody "owns" the coral reefs they should be free for anyone to mash; after all, what right does the government have to tell people where and how they can catch fish?<<<<< Excellent question. When I used to be active in the Libertarian party, I remember having a friendly debate about this over beer and pizza. I took the side of the fish. The most intelligent of my debaters decided that the solution was for someone to own the fish, and that someone should protect them. I suggested that, while fish are, and I am not sure I am spelling this right, and I am sure spellcheck would light up no matter if I did or didn't, ferae naturae, maybe we could say that "we" own the fish, and protect them for "us" - that there is incalculable benefit in protection of wildlife and wilderness. This was scoffed at - I don't think there is any place for these concepts in the Libertarian framework, which is quite reductionist, and this is the major reason I quit being a Libertarian. The sad thing is, there are laws to stop what is being done, but your local government is not powerful enough to stop it. What else can we do? Other than try to raise the consciousness of the consumer, so that demand for illegal goods will decline. Or take matters into one's own hand, try to enforce the law or what ought to be the law, through individual action. But that's probably just fantasy. I saw the most beautiful carved elephant tusks this past weekend at a museum - carved by Japanese artists into the most incredibly intricate forms - one of a monkey family that looked real - one of a battle between men on horses and monsters and dragons that would have looked real if dragons really existed. Of course, I thought about the poor elephant, but I looked at the carvings anyway.